Originally Posted By freakman
Hello, I have an SSD installed in my AUDYA 4 today, works perfectly.
Standard IDE to SATA adapter about 9 €
120GB Western Digital about 29 €
Until now, everything is running faster than before and no clacking HDD more.



Originally Posted By mc2pereira
please could you take a step by step how to install SD?


Originally Posted By freakman
hello,
It's just a guide how I did it,
if they do it you take responsibility for your device.

I installed an SSD in my Audya 4.
My Audya4 with original HDD, no purchase styles and Sounds by Ketron.

I used a SSD 120GB WD (Western Digital) and a cheap IDE To SATA adapter.
So now the simple version, plug the SSD into the adapter,
connect the original cable to the adapter (I can upload pictures if anyone is interested)
Turn Audya 4 on and let it boot.
There is an error, Phase Error, please wait for the Audya 4 to continue booting after a few seconds.
Then the message HDD can not be read F1 Formatting.
Confirm F1, after formatting turn off the Audya4. Remove the SSD again.
The SSD no longer in the PC format very important.
Now copy the original HDD with all hidden system files to the SSD.
Mark all directories and files on the original HDD and copy them to the SSD.
Finally, the message 4 overwrite system files, I have overwritten them.
Then install the SSD with the adapter back into your Audya 4 ready.
I have tried everything now, everything works,
everything that worked before. My styles with audio drums everything.
.Ins files are loaded without problems. DJ Loops perfect.
Record in .wav, .mp3 perfect. I have not noticed anything, not even the sound.
Until now, everything is running, have already turned it on several times,
always booted without problems.
The IDE to SATA costs about 9 € and the WD SSD about 30 €.
The LED flashes green when loading, so everything is fine.
My USB sticks work perfectly, direct loading and playing or copying everything works.
I tested it for a very long time, everything was great so far.
Everything is loaded and saved.
Sound Audio Drums shortcuts.
Read from USB and written.
My Audya4 has booted every time, perfectly.


Originally Posted By Tonewheeldude
Should note that all protected styles (and user styles) will cease to operate and any previously installed USB updates will not work with the sata drive. Also, the 120gb SSD will be formatted down to 80gb.


Originally Posted By leezone
tonewheeldude,

so how to get those previously installed, purchased USB packs back into new SSD?

i know that cloning HD's won't work also, as HD has an ID#

i guess you would have to have made an exact copy of your USB style packs BEFORE you installed into your AUDYA, yes?

and then you could re-install ?

i too would like to upgrade my old HD to SSD
i've already have the 128gb Sandisk SSD for about 2 years,
just haven't sone it yet,

still have to buy that adapter? which is recommended?

thanks everyone!!!


Originally Posted By Tonewheeldude
I can't recommend using an adapter if you are a professional/semi player. Ketron use an industrial PATA SSD drive in their upgrade kits - and this is where it would be best to look. Not all are compatible though, they did use Transcend previously, but not all work correctly and the DISK LED remains illuminated. Kingspec PATA SSD drives dont seem to work properly. I'll try and find the old Transcend part Number.

For the USB updates. Contact your distributor, if you bought them through Ketron UK, they will reinitialise the USB stick free of charge if you send it to them. (Roberts styles for example)


Originally Posted By SigiZ58
Hi,
I know there are some threads relating this theme, but I did not found the answer :-)
Nowadays SSDs are not very expensive. There are several options for Audya, there is an replacement kit from ketron and also variants from AJAMSONIC.
But beside of this, my task is simpler. I only want to migrate my system to a NEW modern SSD. It is clear, there are copy protection systems for AJAMSONIC or Pendrives, but I only want to install a default system (have the 5.0a factory available).

Why a new SDD ?
I suspect my SDD starting to fail, as I experience problems the last weeks. Maybe they have nothing to do, but suddenly duplicated datas and errors when I check on a windows system makes it at least suspicious.

Nowadays a modern SDD has very good garbage collection and error correction capabilities. So I plan to buy a SSD around 128 or 250 GB (f.i. Samsung 850EVO) and leave the rest for overprovisioning, as still an Audya is not able to format with more then 80GB.

What I think is extremely bad, that it seems, formatting is a must to be done with the Audya itself. I tried to allign my system drive for SSD, but after this I got the feared "init phase error".

The problem with AUDYA OS is the lack of support for SSD what leads to an accelerated wear out of the drive, even more on older SSDs. As the newer distributed write algorithms combined with overprovisioning (SSD size - used size) means the wear out on the SSD will become notably reduced - at least I hope.

I really hope (but I do not believe) Ketron will include support at least for alligned and preformatted partitions to reduce the unneccassary wear out of SSDs.

What do you think ? Any ideas or hints ? Does anybody know if it is possible to use an alligned SSD in an Audya ?
Or does anybody have a tipp, which SSD might depend as little as possible from the used OS


Originally Posted By Tonewheeldude
You can get a genuine SSD from Ketron and this is the option I strongly suggest. They are more expensive than standard consumer grade drives though. Initially they used a Transcend Industrial SSD which has now been discontinued. They now use Cervoz Momentus Series.

You need to remember the drives on your Audya are being used quite heavily because the audio data streams in real time. If its for home use you dont have to be too concerned, but if you plan to use your keyboard live then you should probably buy the correct drive via Ketron and ignore the next paragraph.

You can use a cheaper consumer grade SSD but make sure you have backups of everything. I have tried Kingston, Transcend and Kingspec - none of the ones I tried work properly and either the DISK LED is stuck on RED constantly or the drive is not detected at all, even adding the cable jumper does not work. Zenho drives work but you need to modify the cable otherwise the Audya does not register the drive.

The Transcend drive Ketron supplied until recently is a 64gb TS64GPSD330. If its not this number (or possibly the TS128GPSD330) it will likely not work - i know from experience. You should be able to use the 128gb version, but the keyboard will format the drive to 80gb. If you are able to find the correct model number (unlikely) you will need to modify the Audya IDE cable. Once you have done so you will not be able to use your original hard drive unless you have a spare cable (these are not easy to find either)

The new Cervoz Momentus drive is not available to the public as far as i am aware. The cable does not need to be modified for this drive and is a drop in replacement.

Official drives are preloaded with the factory data.

When changing Hard or SSD drives, any USB updates purchased and installed on the original drive will no longer operate and you will need to contact Ketron for assistance.


Originally Posted By Quote
Hi, do I need to modify the IDE cable if I'm gonna replace the HDD with an Transcend TS32GPSD330 PATA 32GB SSD, 2.5 inch, MLC ?
If so, how can I do it?
Thanks!


Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Yes.

Once you open up your AUDYA (flip top lid over and away from you with bottom section/keys facing you), the data cable (fist 2 wires from left to right) has to be cut. You will have 4 exposed wires. Peal off the shielding of the 2 connected to the HD/SSD and join them, then cover with insulation tape (master select on). Leave the other 2 going to the CPU board as is.

If you have any more questions, please contact us directly at KetronUSA@AjamSonic.com for schematic diagrams ... etc.

Thanks,
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