Wow... smoking going on all over the place..! Henni, you yourself retracted your post (it now seems you simply posted them on the wrong thread, but how was I to know that?) and now you don't remember? LOL I said the Audya CAMP, and if you read Lee's posts, that's hijacking plain and simple. Didn't even ADDRESS the thread topic.

And Lee... sorry, but the idea that you have to lose the audio altogether, just to be able to do some mild editing is kind of silly, isn't it? Basically, the idea is that audio loops are MUCH better than MIDI ones, right? That's YOUR premise, anyway. So, to alter the least thing, you have to do away with them altogether, and go back to the full MIDI arranger section (which, to my ears at least, is not exactly the Ketron's strongest point)?

This is kind of what I've been talking about. The better all MIDI arrangers have been getting closer and closer to sounding like audio, but with NONE of audio's drawbacks. But Ketron have put all their eggs in this audio basket, rather than concentrating on things like better guitar NTT's, articulated sounds in styles, not just the RH section, multi-velocity drum kits that have a great live sound, things like that. I simply feel that, as MIDI instruments get better and better, and start to approach audio loops' realism, the audio loop based arranger becomes more and more redundant.

But that's just me. It ain't 'hype'. It ain't misinformation. It's simply a differing opinion. I would never tell anyone to NOT go out and try one out. If you've got $5000 to kill, and don't edit your styles much, who knows? It could be the perfect arranger for you. I am simply trying to point out the more obvious disadvantages. And sorry, but if that don't sit that well with you, nothing I can do about it.