Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Yamaha is clearly looking after a different market/clientele, than you, Diki.

The average Tyros buyer is retired, fairly well off, usually coming from an organ or accordion background, or perhaps played synths or combo organ in a band.

Yamaha isn't looking for your business at all.

You need to wait for something by Roland or Ketron...it might be a long wait...of course, you're prepared to wait...you're content with your two G-70's.

You really have no use for most of what's on a Tyros...do you do a lot of Ballroom, Country, Swing/Jazz for instance? Is a polished pop style, or ballad part of your repertoire?

Plus, you don't like a compressed or polished sound, which is the hallmark and a major selling feature of the Tyros (and PSR) instruments.

Yes, the drums on the T4 are vastly improved (from what I've been told), but the overall sound is still "Yamaha"...a sound you don't like very much.

You need 76 keys...Tyros has 61.

Focus on the brands that will give you the sound you are looking for or need, or more accurately, want...don't waste time berating a company who prides itself on it's refined and balanced sound, and who looks after clients far different than you.

All the rhetoric you can muster will not change the good ship Yamaha's course..it is already set, and the destination is, and always was, a profitable one...you're better off spending your time campaigning Roland to make something that would be more suitable for your needs/wants/purposes/style.


[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 09-21-2010).]

Well Hello everyone.
I would like to say few words and I also don't want because I know that there will be a lot of comments that I will never have time to read them and also there will be good comment medium comment and bad comment.
I am a pianist and a keyboard player and I have experience more than 15 years.
I tried all Brands I had Ketron, Korg, Roland, Kurzweil, Gem and Yamaha and beleive me after all what I got of experience and after years of hearing and performing I find Yamaha the best voices quality till now.
Styles need to be improved but Drumkits are Fantastic so no need to complain about styles if you can do them by yourself with such Great drumkits.
Those who are complaining about Scrat voices just don't use them and also don't Judge Tyros4 by viewing only 1 Demo or 2 but you have to listen and explore Tyros4 by yourselves and since I have one I know how much it has been improved from Tyros3 specialy Drumkits and Voices with SA2.
Finaly those who doesn't know the VH2 I will tell you it is not to be compared with any other vocal harmonizer specialy Roland G70 it is much better.
At the end all of us here are different from each other from Regions, cultyres, Styles.... each one of us is right by his point of view and wrong by others point of view, so do not blame me for what I wrote this was my point of view.
As I also see a lot of comments that doesn't make sense to me like:
Why should I sell my Tyros3 and get Tyros4?
So for those people I sy that they don'y know their Tyros3 yet and they have never seen a Tyros4 and just trying to be Smart because difference is in Details and it is HUGE.
Thank you all.
Check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTcNz00hLIc
and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQnnJ8EGRhg&feature=related

And here is what some prefered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHudN6POFbI&NR=1

and THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oq8oOR84IU

Listen for the difference in quality for GOD SAKE!!!!!!!!!!

See this also to the END you find a lot in it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRERLQDlAUY&feature=related

[This message has been edited by Malika3625 (edited 09-22-2010).]