Yes Ron,that is not the correct date,last week it was 15 okt,and now 21 okt,they do that so you can order the Sd9 and than you must wait,wait,and wait,the price is also not correct or is it without tax?I got an answer,a dealer from Italy and they also said December and the price is between 3500 a 4000 euro,it is very frustrating that they give us hope on a date and than nothing happens.I,ve got a feeling that the Sd9 comes early november,so let's fingers crossed.