'Yamaha are shrewdly focused on maximising their profit. That doesnt mean that the 76 arranger market isnt profitable but it might mean that yamaha cant maximise their profits from this as opposed to other uses of their capital.'

I qouted myself because it seems people are being very selective about what they read or provide as evidence of the folly of yamaha neglecting this 'substantial' 76 key aranger market .

kalimero

From your post you have demonstrated that the purchase of the 76 key PA1x pro or any of the Korg PA range had nothing to do with the keys but everything to do with the features of the instrument and styles of music that you might produce that use specific instruments that need to be sampled into your keyboard to play, did i get that about right ?

Buying any of the PA range, 800,pa1x/pro,PA2x makes perfect sense regardless of keys. Trust me korg knows this which is why they have a fully featured sampler built in and not the recorder that yamaha has. Go to you tube and type in Korg pa1x and see how many demos feature eastern european musicians ! Type in tyro and you will see the typical yamaha arranger customer (aprat from Mr Voncken or petter Baartman). In fact this is the one feature that distuinguishes korg from the rest and illustrates the brigding the gap between home and pro users that i pointed out in my previous post.

There is a much stronger argument for yamaha to target more tightly their eastern europan customers. They have the PSRA1000 i think for that type of music but as you say it does not have a sampler . As Eastern european music becomes more accessible i am sure this emphasis will shift and more companies will market directly to it as i know korg does and roland does to an extent with the G7 but i know the instruments are highly priced compared to earnings in that part of the world and the capacity for ordinary people (home musicians which is yamaha's target market ) to buy these relatively expensive instruments is small. If yamaha wanted to target eastern european customers they would do well to add a proper sampler. They might do this yet . Keep your fingers crossed.

Can you see how adding another 76 key arranger may not maximise yamaha's profit given that in the excellent example you just gave at least some proportion of the 76 key arranger purchases worldwide was mainly for the sampler and NOT FOR THE EXTRA KEYS? It was definately a feature that attracted me to the Korg over and above the T2 and G70 amongst other things.

Thanks for adding a fresh angle to the debate (not war ) :-).



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