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Originally posted by Diki:
King, oh King... What are we going to do...?

The point, which you COMPLETELY missed, is that your Alesis's (which are a pretty decent NS10 alternative) are VERY inexpensive, but doing a job that MUCH more expensive speakers usually are used for. All I was trying to point out was that using words like 'I don't need to hear a $200 Chinese self powered speaker to know whether it is any good' could be used for the exact same equipment you use happily.

Many audio pros would say the same thing about YOUR gear. Are they right? And, if not, how are YOU right saying exactly the same thing? I can see EXACTLY how you respond when someone else casts doubt on your ability to pick good gear out, and yet, here you are doing exactly the same thing...

So, before you go off the deep end, allow me to just say I wasn't saying anything about your ability to mix (not that we have heard much, yet) just your ability to say one thing for yourself, and another for anyone else. If Alesis managed to make a decent nearfield, at a price WAY lower than the rest, then how come these guys that Fran likes can't? Just exactly what DO you say to a customer that goes 'I don't need to hear a cheap Alesis monitor to know what it sounds like'?

Probably the same thing we are telling you... USE YOUR EARS. Then make up your mind.


The difference is Im using mine BEFORE the public hears the result and I have second and third chances to check my mixes.

Advise me to order a a pair of $200 powered 8" or even 10" speakers off Ebay to play live in front of a clients customers based solely on the opinion of someone in an Internet forum (where Logitech is considered a viable professional PA system) and I am not running to Ebay. The difference is one I get to hear BEFORE anyone else does. The other IS heard by everyone else. Thats it purpose. Diki people here are seriously glowing about LOGITECH Computer Speakers as a professional PA System!!!. How the hell could I not question nor be confused about opinion on anything without digging deeper??

Audio recording forums are the worse for gear suggestions. Unless one uses a manley this or U87 that they are not relavant. I understand. But I also understand their market and mine. They make recordings for the sake of the RECORDING. I record music not gear. There is a point of no return in Audio world. People buy $23,000 Magico V3 hiFi Speakers. Surely My Rode NT2 and VCQ1 are Hasbro products next to a vintage U87 and Amek Channel in a Box preamp. I get it.
I certainly would not recommend 10 year old Alesis Monitor Ones to anyone in a Recording forum who is looking for monitor speakers. I wouldn't recommend them here!! There are plenty of Studio monitors that would blow them away for "new ears" and not require as much a "listening learning curve." They are good for me ONLY because I KNOW them. I know how to EQ a mix through them. I know their weaknesses and DON'T compensate for them.

When they are finally trashed I will have to start all over with another brand and I don't look forward to that day. Believe it or not I once bought a pair of 824s and EQ'd the Alesis to match them (with a Sub) I decided the difference was not worth $900 and took the Mackies back. My system was set up to match the Mackies and they came close enough.

I nearly always track a professional CD close to what I'm mixing when I am mixing as well. If I could get my EQ to match the $100K recording of Sting or whatever playing through the same speakers I was happy and "learned the monitor's "quirks" as well. After awhile I can trust my ears and the monitors. Anyone can do this with a pair of Auratones or RS Minimus 7's.

[This message has been edited by Kingfrog (edited 02-23-2009).]
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