Graham, when you've been where I've been, done what I've done, held that helpless child in your arms while it slowly suffocated to death, turned blue, gasping for it's very last breath you may have a tiny inkling of the real world. Until then, the rest of this is total BS, at least IMO. You can preach to those that don't have a clue to what really happens in the real world, and have never experienced death in their arms. I have, I know what I'm talking about - I've been there done that.

I've come very close to death a couple times, and I knew exactly what my body was doing at the time. I held my daughters hand while she lay helpless in the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Unit, a center I helped design back in the 1960s. She had a tracheotomy tube in her throat, a half dozen IVs, broken neck, halo, Foley catheter, electrodes covering her frail body to monitor her conditions, and all the damned prayers in the world would not have helped her survive.

Do you, for one minute, believe that motorcycle accident that she was involved in was "God working in mysterious ways"? BS. The only reason she survived was because of MAN'S INTERVENTION! The training that those nurses and physicians got from other men, the achievements of Doctor R. Adams Cowley, an Atheist from a Mormon family, my old boss, that's what kept my daughter alive - not prayer, not God, not Jesus Christ. Tell that stuff to someone that needs to find themselves in this life - but don't try to preach that to ME. I don't and won't buy it.

Gary