Al, I'm with you...The Tyros4 finally took a forward step to me adding vocal sounds that sound like vocals...up to this time...only Roland had the vocal tones that worked...The PA800 doesn't and compared to the previous Tyros models..the PA800 was better....

Actually the Tyros4 is the only Yamaha arranger that I like...but the cost is a rip and it doesn't interest me...till the Tyros5 comes out...then I can find a Tyros4 for under 2g's..