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#438265 - 10/02/17 07:26 AM Genos vs pa4x
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Now that demos are flying out left right and centre on the genos, how do they compare in your opinion to the demos that came out when the pa4x was launched. Is the genos finally able to deliver that live band feel of the korg?

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#438266 - 10/02/17 07:34 AM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: rolandfan]
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Certainly closer than previous models, but I don't think their styles will be better. Maybe, we'll see.
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#438271 - 10/02/17 08:19 AM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
Certainly closer than previous models, but I don't think their styles will be better. Maybe, we'll see.


I agree....honestly to me it sounds like a tyros 5 with some arps?
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#438274 - 10/02/17 08:27 AM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
Certainly closer than previous models, but I don't think their styles will be better. Maybe, we'll see.


Actually on the tyros 5 you could get really close to that live feel of Korg, by edditing the styles, switching some tracks off, a little eq on the drums, and adding some volume to the bass and guitars... its all in the arrangement..

Seems Genos has improved drums and drum edditing..


But where the Genos will allways stay beyound the korg is
A) edditing, sounds...and midi.. and espescially where it comes to sound creation
B) real time controlls.. pa4x already has assignable sliders. And i am using the knobs of kronos to.. but thas not what i mean, i mean live controlling the styles... with buttons.. why do i have no fill buttons on Genos, manuall bass button..etc etc..

We will have to see how much the live coontrol and asignable buttons can make up for the missing comtrolls..


Wher Genos shines is dsp power.. which seems to be a blessing
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#438275 - 10/02/17 08:30 AM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Bernie9
Certainly closer than previous models, but I don't think their styles will be better. Maybe, we'll see.


I agree....honestly to me it sounds like a tyros 5 with some arps?


Only 216 arps amd no way to load user created arps...
and only a single arp at a time..

Not really usefull ... compared to montage that has 8 arps in real time... and almost 10.000 arps stored...


The Genos is far off from the all in one instrument you would want for €4500 ... where the Montage comes at under €3000...

Fun thing, the hardware of the Montage is more expensive then the buildcost of the Genos...
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#438301 - 10/02/17 10:47 AM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: rolandfan]
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How about key length are the any longer than they were on Tyros5?
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#438307 - 10/02/17 11:19 AM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: Bachus]
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Harvard Business School 101. The cost of manufacturing has absolutely no bearing on product pricing!


Edited by jingleman (10/02/17 11:20 AM)

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#438320 - 10/02/17 01:01 PM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: jingleman]
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Originally Posted By jingleman

Harvard Business School 101. The cost of manufacturing has absolutely no bearing on product pricing!


I can see where that one comes from...
Altough i think there is some influence...


The most important for the price is what people are prepared to pay for a product


So if nobody would buy the Genos, prices would drop
Or the product would dissapear
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#438322 - 10/02/17 01:12 PM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: rolandfan]
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#438362 - 10/02/17 09:50 PM Re: Genos vs pa4x [Re: Stephenm52]
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Originally Posted By Stephenm52
How about key length are the any longer than they were on Tyros5?


No exactly the same keybed (FSR)
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