Yes Bill,
I TOTALLY agree. Hence my differentiation between religion and being born again as mentioned in my posts above. However, please tell me in your own words and personal experiences what is being said in the video & back up with examples from your own life, will you?
Let's discuss things in our own words also in between, shall we. Since you jumped on the wagon, I HAVE to believe that you are also an expert in the field of atheism with much to say personally on the subject.
Hard as it is for me, I'll try my best to debate without stating the Bible as my sole reference as you guys do not accept this as a basis for anything.
Next we touched on astral projection which has nothing to do with being born again. It is well documented, even by science, but alas you group esteem it in the same category as this discussion. You do not reason about it, counter any writings on it. All you do is mock it and end of story?
No my friend, this is NOT what intelligent debate is about. Let's tackle things point by point, debating each point before wildly chucking something in when we find ourselves in a corner.
And don't worry, as always there'll be a crowd of you against single me (there are not many in my camp that will openly side with me for fear of running against the main stream & for fear of loosing face), so you should not be afraid of discussing any point in great detail. For how can so many super intelligent highly esteemed individuals loose any debate against a single "fairy tale believing" nut.
Let's go back to astral projection which "does not exist". Please tell me upon what are all the writings as listed based? These are not "religious" folks, in fact FAR from it as the two camps do not mix too well at all.
Oh yes, if you do not care to address my questions, then please do not blame me for treating your concerns as raised in a similar fashion, because I will retaliate. This is a debate, not a place for wild statements only.
Also, back up what you say with examples out of your own life - if you do not live what you profess over here to believe, then you have no place in this debate.
All the best,
Henni
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