I started the thread because it beggars belief that the T4 could be improved, at lot said there wasn't that much difference between the T3 and T4, maybe the T5 will not be in the same mould at all and that might be a good things. The Organ market is well and truly dead Bill and for that matter the ones being produced are way out of most people's pockets. Anyway what do you think of Peter, he's got to be one of the best on the circuit. No falling out about this thread any of you, I think this is a good one for sensible discussion, I still like the Korg Pa3x it's build quality looks first class for such a small footprint. I went into our local KB shop last week and the owner is sure there will be a new Yami KB this year ??? party lets party when it does, can't see anyone else with anything this year..