Yeah right and those same forums the "self proclaimed players" seem to be the most bitter at not having all that hard work recognized and very quick to dismiss anyone who did not agonize over Hanon or years of strenuous vocal training who achieves any modicum of success that surpasses theirs.
In fact more so. Elitism has it's supporters.

Have a look around. Seems to me a huge pool of the hugely successful in the music world spent more time singing, writing and playing rather than learning how to play, sing or write "correctly". The end user and supporter of their work doesn't care about how many years one studied, technicalities learned from or with the masters, only whether or not it's worthy of their dollars today. There are more Joe Cockers than Josh Grobans,More Greg Allmans than Keith Emersons.



[This message has been edited by Kingfrog (edited 04-21-2009).]