Originally posted by Diki:
That is insulting to anyone that uses a modern TOTL arranger. ALL of the major's arrangers give you EXTENSIVE abilities to personalize the style. But they make it so you don't HAVE to. Unfortunately, the MS is going to make you HAVE to tweak extensively, just to get up to the quality of a PSR3k, yet alone a T2! Plenty of us tweak the factory styles in our T2's and G70's. But most of us realize that if the style is a dog in the first place, you are just t*rd polishing. It's a LOT easier to tweak a great style than a bad one.
And, if you CAN make the MS sound that good, why in heaven's name have Lionstracs not already done it? If creating a style library is SO difficult, and so expensive that they can't afford to do it, how on earth do they expect the majority of their customers to have skills they don't possess themselves...? If the manufacturer can't realize the potential of their own product, what right do they have to demand that we DO..?
The sad thing is, we DO 'get it'. We DO realize what the 'potential' is. We just can't HEAR IT....!
The next thing I want to hear is a style demo that blows me away. Don't bother posting to tell me about the potential. Don't bother posting to tell me how much all the other guy's arranger suck because they are 'closed'. Don't bother posting to tell me I just don't understand the MS.
Either post something that rivals the majors, or just go away until you can.....
Well “who the cap fits let them where it”.
I just don’t think that it is correct to imply that most professional gigging arranger players are want to be DJs and depend on a factory style to make them sound good and that they don’t have any understanding of keyboard technology and how to please the audience with their vision of a song.
When we say that the value of a high-end arranger to a professional gigging musician is the OTB styles, it only gives arranger players a bad rap. It says that arranger players don’t understand keyboard technology and that arranger players have no concept as to how to personalize and play an instrument. It puts arranger players in the realm of a DJ.
The fact is that some people just do not want to understand the value and concept of these newer arrangers that are being developed.
To compare the price of a long-lasting mediastation to a regular arranger by just taking in to consideration the styles clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding of these newer keyboards.
If I were to sum up these newer arrangers in one word I would use the word INTEGRATION. These newer arrangers allow you to integrate arranger playing, sequenced midi files, mp3s and audio files, CD, videos, sampling, software sounds and standard keyboard playing…..
So on that one gig, you can play with styles, play with just a piano sound, use custom made sounds, when you are on a break play a MP3 or CD and so on all on the same machine.
I think that that is a good value for a gigging musician especially to get major upgrades you don’t necessarily have to by a new board.
Now don’t get me wrong having good styles is important. But to stress picture perfect styles as being the deal breaker between getting one of these newer arrangers is the mentality of a home player and not a professional player.
Having picture perfect CD sounding styles is primarily for home users. After all that is who the arranger market is geared for. And that has been admitted by one of the big manufacturers (remember they would not make 76 keys because they say their target market does not want it).
The professional player is an after thought for a 61 key closed system arranger.
Oddly enough, The manufacturers that have open systems and innovative keyboard features are the ones who have 76 key on their arrangers. Even Korg and Roland, although they have closed systems, are constantly updating their 76 key arrangers. It looks like they are looking out for the professional gigging musician.
But I guess to each his own.
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