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#430008 - 03/20/17 03:06 PM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: Bachus]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Bachus.

Yes, it is an advanced form of 'multipads'. You can still do just as you requested above - use a style in conjunction with the Launchpad, just within the Launchpad platform (and not within the arranger platform as other manufactures do)! Note that in the Launchpad platform, yes, you still have access to your arranger controls (Fills, breaks ... etc).

Your style has 9 auto tracks (Drums, Perc, Bass, Chords 1-5 and Live Audio Guitar), right? Simply IMPORT these 9 style elements into a Scene. This leaves you with 3 more to use just as you described (for midi or audio/wave tracks).
So, for an example ....
Scene 1 will have Arranger A style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
Scene 2 will have Arranger B style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
Scene 3 will have Arranger C style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
At this rate, Scene 6 can have nothing but your extra 'stuff', so in total, if you think about it, other arrangers give you a max of 4 pads to use with the arranger, while this new KETRON approach gives you various combinations since you have a max of 72 pads!
* 18 styles and no free pads
* 17 styles and 3 pads to work with
* 16 styles and 6 pads to work with
* 15 pads and 9 pads to work with
.....
.....
* 2 styles and 64 pads to work with
* 1 style and 68 pads to work with!

If you want to go with the conventional arranger set up of 1 style to 4 pads, then on the SD9 Pro, you'll have 68 pads (not 4) left to work with in conjunction with 1 style!

Now as you play, right there from the Launchpad screen, you can control both the ARRANGER tracks AND your extra Pads (mute, mix, blend, chord sequence, Modeling, beat mode ... etc).

Now save this as a Launchpad Project (similar to Registration). At your show, simply load this file (it will load all associated style parts, audio elements and midi elements associated with all 72 Pads)!

From a professional and operational point of view, this method (in my opinion and design) gives you way more flexibility and control of your tracks and over all performance than simply picking a style and touching 4 pads to add to that style. The Launchpad on the SD9 Pro takes the use of pads to a whole new level and takes advantage of the large touch screen.

Hope this clarifies this.

Thanks,


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#430019 - 03/21/17 04:44 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Sokratis 1974 Offline
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Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 660
Loc: Hellas, Creta, Iraklion
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Bachus.

Yes, it is an advanced form of 'multipads'. You can still do just as you requested above - use a style in conjunction with the Launchpad, just within the Launchpad platform (and not within the arranger platform as other manufactures do)! Note that in the Launchpad platform, yes, you still have access to your arranger controls (Fills, breaks ... etc).

Your style has 9 auto tracks (Drums, Perc, Bass, Chords 1-5 and Live Audio Guitar), right? Simply IMPORT these 9 style elements into a Scene. This leaves you with 3 more to use just as you described (for midi or audio/wave tracks).
So, for an example ....
Scene 1 will have Arranger A style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
Scene 2 will have Arranger B style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
Scene 3 will have Arranger C style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
At this rate, Scene 6 can have nothing but your extra 'stuff', so in total, if you think about it, other arrangers give you a max of 4 pads to use with the arranger, while this new KETRON approach gives you various combinations since you have a max of 72 pads!
* 18 styles and no free pads
* 17 styles and 3 pads to work with
* 16 styles and 6 pads to work with
* 15 pads and 9 pads to work with
.....
.....
* 2 styles and 64 pads to work with
* 1 style and 68 pads to work with!

If you want to go with the conventional arranger set up of 1 style to 4 pads, then on the SD9 Pro, you'll have 68 pads (not 4) left to work with in conjunction with 1 style!

Now as you play, right there from the Launchpad screen, you can control both the ARRANGER tracks AND your extra Pads (mute, mix, blend, chord sequence, Modeling, beat mode ... etc).

Now save this as a Launchpad Project (similar to Registration). At your show, simply load this file (it will load all associated style parts, audio elements and midi elements associated with all 72 Pads)!

From a professional and operational point of view, this method (in my opinion and design) gives you way more flexibility and control of your tracks and over all performance than simply picking a style and touching 4 pads to add to that style. The Launchpad on the SD9 Pro takes the use of pads to a whole new level and takes advantage of the large touch screen.

Hope this clarifies this.

Thanks,

Very good Elements!!!!
Thank you AJ...
We waiting for more infos, demos, manual etc...
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#430022 - 03/21/17 08:21 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 5149
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Bachus.

Yes, it is an advanced form of 'multipads'. You can still do just as you requested above - use a style in conjunction with the Launchpad, just within the Launchpad platform (and not within the arranger platform as other manufactures do)! Note that in the Launchpad platform, yes, you still have access to your arranger controls (Fills, breaks ... etc).

Your style has 9 auto tracks (Drums, Perc, Bass, Chords 1-5 and Live Audio Guitar), right? Simply IMPORT these 9 style elements into a Scene. This leaves you with 3 more to use just as you described (for midi or audio/wave tracks).
So, for an example ....
Scene 1 will have Arranger A style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
Scene 2 will have Arranger B style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
Scene 3 will have Arranger C style elements from style plus 3 of your pad data (midi or/and wave).
At this rate, Scene 6 can have nothing but your extra 'stuff', so in total, if you think about it, other arrangers give you a max of 4 pads to use with the arranger, while this new KETRON approach gives you various combinations since you have a max of 72 pads!
* 18 styles and no free pads
* 17 styles and 3 pads to work with
* 16 styles and 6 pads to work with
* 15 pads and 9 pads to work with
.....
.....
* 2 styles and 64 pads to work with
* 1 style and 68 pads to work with!

If you want to go with the conventional arranger set up of 1 style to 4 pads, then on the SD9 Pro, you'll have 68 pads (not 4) left to work with in conjunction with 1 style!

Now as you play, right there from the Launchpad screen, you can control both the ARRANGER tracks AND your extra Pads (mute, mix, blend, chord sequence, Modeling, beat mode ... etc).

Now save this as a Launchpad Project (similar to Registration). At your show, simply load this file (it will load all associated style parts, audio elements and midi elements associated with all 72 Pads)!

From a professional and operational point of view, this method (in my opinion and design) gives you way more flexibility and control of your tracks and over all performance than simply picking a style and touching 4 pads to add to that style. The Launchpad on the SD9 Pro takes the use of pads to a whole new level and takes advantage of the large touch screen.

Hope this clarifies this.

Thanks,


So if i understand correctly, the limit is 12 tracks ... but with only 6 scenes in the pad mode, using pad mode does not allow to have 4 Variations with 4 fills some intro's and endings... if i want full style functionallity then i cant use the pads...


Maybe in the Future, Ketron can make a combi mode.... where i can have X full functioning style parts (intro/ending var, fill, break) ... and 12-x pads (with 6 scenes)

I could have a style of 6 tracks... and then 6 pads... i am quite sure with enough time the programmers in Italy can do this in a patch some day in the future...


Yet, still the feature is prommising...
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#430033 - 03/21/17 05:23 PM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: Bachus]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Bachus,

Maybe if I explain just a little more, it will make more sense to you. The arranger controls (fills, breaks) work in Pad mode. Each scene can accept 12 pads. There are 6 scenes per project so you can have 72 pads per project (with access to 12 at any given time). So if you port the Arranger parts into a scene, then you will have 3 pads per scene free.

In an arranger, you cannot play arranger A and arranger B at the same time (it's either or) .... so in the Launchpad mode, you cannot play Scene 1 and Scene 2 at the same time - you have access to only one scene's data (pads) at a time (just as with the arranger, you have access and use of only one arranger, fill, intro, ending at a time). An arranger cannot play parts of the intro and arranger b together - but with the Launchpad, you can break this limitation.

So, at any given time, you have access to 12 pads that you can manipulate in real time so if you take a style's arranger A and dump into Scene 1, this means you have 3 free pads in this scene. Now, dump arranger B in to Scene 2 ...etc. Scene 4 will be your last scene with arranger parts (unless you want to also incorporate intros and endings).

Hope this make it easier to understand.

Thanks,

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Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

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#430222 - 03/30/17 09:59 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: Ketron_AJ]
pastroccio Offline
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Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 145
Loc: Italia
Thank's AJ, but I read, and read many time but not full understand:
because you talk about 16 styles... or more maybe you want tell "par style "?
- How is link a pad to the key switch (arr a b c d , Fill Break, Intro )?
I want understan using lanch pad with only 1 FULL style what have plus, and if all 4 var, 4 break 4 fill 3 intro 3 ends. how much slot need ecc?
can you make an example please
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#430248 - 03/31/17 03:25 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: nightowl]
audyaplayer Offline
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Registered: 09/09/10
Posts: 226
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#430252 - 03/31/17 04:28 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: nightowl]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 2586
Loc: South Africa
Many new demos out - I'm collecting all of them. Guitars not all that much different from the Audya apart from the new country and Jazz additions - just played well with the appropriate bass this time...

Will I get one? You bet!!! As soon as I have the funds ready one will be shipped to South Africa - you can bet on that!
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#430260 - 03/31/17 07:30 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: nightowl]
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 3930
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
My Audya is fine. I will wait for the next TOTL Audya that, if ever made, will incorporate the new features of the SD7 replacement(SD9).


Edited by Bernie9 (03/31/17 07:33 AM)
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#430358 - 04/03/17 05:23 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: nightowl]
Sokratis 1974 Offline
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Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 660
Loc: Hellas, Creta, Iraklion
Too many new Style videos of SD9Pro...




















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#430363 - 04/03/17 08:38 AM Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro [Re: nightowl]
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
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Loc: Texas
My question would be has there been any improvements in the operation of the OS as compared to the SD7? Also, after spending almost 2 years with my SD7 would all my setups transfer to the SD9 Pro or would I be starting all over again????

Deane

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