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#337522 - 01/26/12 11:19 AM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Dnj]
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Also have been to London once to visit a music dealer, but that was 20 years ago at least.

If you are ever down this neck of the woods, let me know.

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#337551 - 01/26/12 05:24 PM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: mirza]
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Originally Posted By: mirza

Lets look at it this way..Under a $1000 instrument.Like Ian said too bad for no sequencer but still,it's made for live.Tyros 4 and Pa3x are in 4k Audya even more.Are they 4 times better than BK5..I think not.Roland misses some things in this unit but the prize is so low it doesn't really matter.Even these big guys miss things and they are 4x more.
Tyros 4 is missing whole synth engine.I am not saying it is bad, but we all know it's dumb down version in 4K instrument.Even midi set up is terrible.Any regular older synth has better one..Can you make your own SA voices? I don't think so..Drums are still so compressed it kills everything else for me..And I am talking about LIVE playing.
Pa3x has these things but it's OS is terrible to set up and too primitive.It should be simpler..Audya I don't even want to start what's missing.
And these are still at least 4x more money "professional instruments".
So I say BK5 should be a winner..I played with BK7m's styles and I love them.They are not better, but they are also not worse than T4 or PA3X.And still a lot cheaper.
At the end I will ad that I have Pa3x and T4..T4 will soon go.


Glad that you like the BKs.
But in my $950.00 PA500 I can do more.
Great arranger LIVE PLAYING for me is to able to modify/mute/change/select what ever I want when I am playing.
Can I do that with the BK7m? No
In the "primitive" Korg PA500 I can at the touch of a button or on the screen:

- add PADS to a style (The BKs can't)
- Mute/un-mute instruments (The BKs can't)
- Change the volume of any of the instruments (The BKs can't)
- Modify the STS with diff performances (The BKs can't)
- Change the Drums mappings, kick and snare to 7 diff options on each VAR (The BKs can't)
- The SongBook in Korg is far superior to anything that the BKs can offer.

The BKs are adecuate to play what ever they bring from the factory and MP3, but to modify settings you have to hit that Big round button (Select) quite few times.
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#337552 - 01/26/12 05:34 PM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Machetero]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
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Also funny to read is that the OS of the PA3X is terrible and too primitive. No complains here smile


Edited by FransN (01/26/12 05:35 PM)

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#337557 - 01/26/12 05:53 PM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Machetero]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Originally Posted By: Machetero

But in my $950.00 PA500 I can do more.
Great arranger LIVE PLAYING for me is to able to modify/mute/change/select what ever I want when I am playing.
Can I do that with the BK7m? No
In the "primitive" Korg PA500 I can at the touch of a button or on the screen:

- add PADS to a style (The BKs can't)
- Mute/un-mute instruments (The BKs can't)
- Change the volume of any of the instruments (The BKs can't)
- Modify the STS with diff performances (The BKs can't)
- Change the Drums mappings, kick and snare to 7 diff options on each VAR (The BKs can't)

In addition including a dual sequencer (the BK5 has none)
even my < $499 Korg microARRANGER includes all the above listed features . . the $1,000 BK5 doesn't.

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#337576 - 01/26/12 08:25 PM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Dnj]
Dnj Offline
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Does the pa500 have a voc processor & mp3 player?


Edited by Dnj (01/26/12 08:27 PM)

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#337659 - 01/27/12 08:45 AM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Dnj]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
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Loc: Netherlands
No but the PA3X has smile

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#337664 - 01/27/12 08:49 AM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: FransN]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Originally Posted By: FransN
No but the PA3X has smile


So thats where the other $3000 go to, a vocal processor and an MP3 player?

There must be more then that?
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#337665 - 01/27/12 08:50 AM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Dnj]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Of course there is.
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#337669 - 01/27/12 09:02 AM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: FransN]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: FransN
No but the PA3X has smile


Thanx FranN.....I guess you just have to use a Mixer w/ FX coupled with the Pa500 or an outboard VH unit, mp3 player like the Harmony M no problem there. The PA3x IMO has it all.

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#337670 - 01/27/12 09:03 AM Re: New Roland BK 5 demo [Re: Dnj]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
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Loc: Netherlands
Yes the PA3x is a great board. I still love it

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