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#258273 - 03/03/09 07:49 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
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Chevy

The subtle drum accents programmed with the styles that have AUDIO DRUMS (Drum 1) cannot be deleted. However the other drum, bass and chord interactions (AI) can...

Perform the following settings on your Ketron Audya (which might not have been done in the OS you have) so that you manually control everthing ...

* STYLE MODE (under MODE (1/6) )
** AUTO FILL = OFF
** AFTER FILL = OFF

* STYLE MODE (under Chord (4/9) )
** LIVE GUITAR = Normal

* MENU
** Keyboard Control
** UTILITY
** Remix Live Guitar = OFF

Now save as CUSTOM START UP (SAVE - CUSTOM START UP (F6) ), otherwise you will have to repeat the above each time the AUDYA is turned on.

Hope this helps with your Demo.

Thanks,

AJ (was ill for a couple of days and didn't see this - sorry for the delay).
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#258274 - 03/03/09 10:26 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
Diki Offline


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Did you listen to Chevy's Youtube clips, AJ?

Too be honest, I would hardly call those 'subtle programmed accents'. They sound like fills, plain and simple. Or a crash... hardly subtle in a ballad pattern.
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#258275 - 03/03/09 10:39 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
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WOW! Now there's a problem right there. Audio loops with fills BUILT IN to the loop and unchangable! Yikes! Isn't the purpose of an arranger to give YOU the player the control. After all isn't the concept of the arranger to have the band follow YOUR moves. I like the idea of the audio running.., but recording drum audio with slight fills and not allowing the user to take those out can be a big problem for a lot of people. That's pretty messed up IMO. Imagine how pissed off people would be if their arrangers (that didn't use audio) had preset fills on drum tracks that THEY had no control over. Why would you accept that in the form of audio?

Can you swap these audio files out and replace them via an OS upgrade or are they burned into the ROM?????? Was this decision to record these fills into the audio a Ketron decision..., or did your drummer(s) suddenly get a little more involved than they were supposed to be?



[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 03-03-2009).]
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#258276 - 03/03/09 10:45 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
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We've been told that the drum audio files (as opposed to the guitar loops) are streamed from the HD. Therefore, they COULD be changed out to files that don't have fills.

I guess if enough Audya owners and potential owners chime in, it could be done...
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#258277 - 03/03/09 11:38 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
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AJ - Thank you for finally making this clear. I was just as i taught and have tried to explain all the time. You cant turn IT off.

Nedim - Hm.....

I hope Ketron soon will release some patterns with live drums without auto fills. That is a must!!

Martin
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#258278 - 03/03/09 11:39 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
Chevy Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chevy:
AJ - Thank you for finally making this clear. It was just as i taught and have tried to explain all the time. You cant turn IT off.

Nedim - Hm.....

I hope Ketron soon will release some patterns with live drums without auto fills. That is a must!!

Martin
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#258279 - 03/03/09 11:59 AM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
Diki Offline


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Quote:
Originally posted by Chevy:
Nedim - Hm.....


My thoughts exactly...
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#258280 - 03/03/09 12:06 PM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
squeak_D Offline
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Oh boy Someone was pretty confident on the subject huh
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#258281 - 03/03/09 12:16 PM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
Chevy Offline
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Hello

I`m not holding anything against anyone. I`m naive enough to think that everyone is posting on this forum in the best meaning.

Thanks again to all for your opinions. It has been very interesting and i think many has been following the discussion in the "shadow"

No we know the fact and the only ting that needs to me done is to fix it. Its as easy as that,


Martin

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#258282 - 03/03/09 12:24 PM Re: I have the Audya in my studio.
Chevy Offline
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AJ - The Demo went very well. The listeners where amazed and two Audya`s where sold.

By the way - good to se that you are on your feet again.

Take care.

Martin
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