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[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-30-2008).]

Donny why is your heart set an on s900?? GET A KORG!!

Here we go again

Serious offers only, Please email me if interested.

Donny, Donny??? What's going on? I know, you're getting cold feet with all those doubles coming up, aren't you. You're a far better player than any keyboard. I'd hate to see you split from the Roland gang, but...

...we'll see.

Cass you have mail

Why, oh why, is anyone even the slightest bit surprised at this?

Or to be honest, even curious..? Donny has used and rejected every single arranger on the market short of the T3 and MS's and Wersi's.

You can't honestly be looking to this guy for an explanation. There appears to be none other than boredom. Me, if I'm bored, I don't blame the keyboard.

Serious offers only,
Please email me if interested.

Thanks

There can only be Serious offers if the seller was Serious

Oh, he's serious, all right... seriously confused

It's not so hard for us spectators to figure out, Diki...Donny's next keyboard will generally be the one he's been bashing whilst extolling the virtues of the one he's just about to dump.

Quotes from Donny:"I'm done with Yamaha .....yes I said it!!"

"...deep in my heart & soul I knew I made the right choice [E-60]for MY needs.

"My indecisiveness sometimes gets the better of me..."

"Two weeks ago I posted my new E60 for sale, Fran slapped me back into reality....without giving it a real chance & I'm glad I did. I made a commitment to myself to DIG IN to the OS & make this baby MINE."

Well, it looks like Fran didn't slap hard enough and "indecisiveness" has won out over "commitment"....again.

Perhaps under different circumstances all this would be rather funny....but it just seems a bit sad to me...it must be very difficult being this confused and indecisive.

Fran must have a lot patience.

Ian

Serious offers only, Please email me if interested.

Donny,

Really, you should give the 800 a whirl again. It has everything you could possibly want:

- mp3
- great smf player
- harmonizer
- speakers
- awesome sounds and styles

I know you're not keen on the style limitation and OS, but of all people, you can work around that stuff.

I'm working on Christmas music and it simply continues to blow my mind. The difference in this and a Yamaha is that you have to WORK for it on this board - but it pays back, big time.

Just my opinion. Your hype way back led me to this board and I still thank you to this day

Happy Holidays

You're right Zuki...the PA-800 would be ideal for Donny....and with your support, and that of Korg's user forum, he should be able to manage quite well.

He's already tried the PSR-S900, but maybe with OS2 in the PA-800, it will be just what he needs.

You with your PA-800, and me with my Yamaha PSR-S900, and a few others with G70s...we are lucky to have found the Holy Grail.

Donny's traveling in the Monty Python version, I think.

Ian



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Serious offers only, Please email me if interested.
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[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-29-2008).]

Zuki ....thank you, after alot of deep thought, another S900....or...PA800 might be what I'm going to do.

Happy Holiday



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-29-2008).]

Nothing worse than being discontent with your instrument during live play. I really enjoyed the S900, but once I got the 800 under my belt, I knew I had found what was going to take me well into the future. Anyway, good luck

Zuki...I'm proud of you...!

Seems like you have found Shangrila with your Korg PA800....myself I'll be turning the page, moving on...& Returning to a Yamaha S900 for sure.

So true, Zuki..."live" play presents a different set of demands on an arranger and the player.

Are you happy with OS2 on your PA-800?

Ian

Off Topic but...you might want to check here...

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=50

Thanks Donny, I've read the Korg forums, but I was interested in Zuki's personal experience with OS2.

The longer a thread...diverse it gets.

http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/018675.html

Yes, Diki...perhaps it is boredom after all...it can't be the products, as, overall, they are all great arrangers.

It just seems like such a waste to keep selling and buying what are essentially the same instruments, and since they are mostly used as SMF players, it shouldn't matter all that much.

I guess the E-60's lack of EQ options were enough for it to be dumped.


Ian

Oh the ill informed become more ignorant every day....its so sad.

btw.... isn't this a For Sale Topic?....

Serious offers only, Please email me if interested.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-29-2008).]

Yes it is Donny, and I apologize if I've hijacked the thread, but it seems I'm not the only curious person.

As far as ignorance, I understood that it meant "lack of knowledge or education"...well, my knowledge came from several people who have seen your act, and they tell me it is mostly based on SMF...not that there's anything wrong with that...but, I doubt if they have much to gain by misinforming me.

They did also say you did a wonderful job as well.

My comment was not meant as positive or negative...simply a neutral statement.

Ian

Not to hijack this thread butl as an E60 owner who is just starting to use it in gigs It would be helpful for me to know if I should be aware something so I am not caught off guard. I have a solo gig on Dec 11th in front of 200 people and Donny was kind enough to share some styles with me. Very helpful. I would be very interested in any TECHNICAL reasons why you are selling Donny. If you would prefer to send me a private email then thats fine too. Cheers!
Brian.

It's called "impulsiveness". Definition of which, as follows:

1. "Inclined to act on impulse rather than thought."

2. "Motivated by or resulting from impulse: such impulsive acts as hugging strangers; impulsive generosity", - buying and selling keyboards on a frequent, unrealistic basis.

Meaning of Impulsive: "Acting or happening without apparent forethought, prompting, or planning: automatic, instinctive, involuntary, reflex, spontaneous, unpremeditated."

It is one of the sure signs of ADD/ADHD Attention-Deficit /Hyperactivity Disorder. >> It is also known to affect adults, not just children (which happen to be the majority of cases).

In my humble opinion Donny, you need to seek out help if you haven't already. There is help my friend.

Best,
Mike

PS: Sorry for being so blunt. I am doing it because I really thought I needed to say it. >> If the shoe fits wear it. If not, then don't bother putting it on. Merry Christmas!

Ian,

Haven't loaded the OS2 yet. In-laws have taken away any free time I thought I'd have these past few days (ugh). Sooner or later, but not until my Christmas songs are in order. Happy Holidays

Probably best to get things sorted out before you load in the new OS...best safe than sorry, although it seems stable enough according to some users, and it offers some great features.

Happy Holidays to you, too.

Ian

Ahh whats the use anymore...this thread really shows whats going on here.
Maybe it's time I fade away like many of the old time Pro contributors who used to post. Starting Monday I wont have much time anyway to post here with the Holiday gig season upon us in full force..
You can always email me if needed.

Happy Holiday

1- If someone wants to buy and sell an item there is a dedicate section in this Forum; there is no need to spam other users on a regular basis with this kind of threads here.
But...
2- like Mike wrote, someone here has a serious problem, as shown by the number of (mostly useless) threads he keeps on posting. This has a negative impact on this Forum and many times I have found myself thinking that the Synthzone would be a better place without this kind of "impulsive" members. So I am glad to know that someone has decided to take a temporary vacation from the Forum, even if I seriously doubt that he will be able to stick to this decision.
Good luck.

Donny has always helped me when I had a problem using my kb. He took the time to explain things to me either on the phone or email with setups or styles, smf songs. I always appreciate his experience & help. What we need is more people like him instead of all the silly bickering that goes on here all time. It's Holiday time can't we just enjoy our keyboards & music.

John

I glanced at this thread a few days ago. I never thought it would go this far! What’s with this “crucify Donny crusade” because he changes keyboards every other day? Are your reprimands possibly a front for jealousy?

What he does is HIS business. Why should what Donny does with his musical affairs and decisions have any bearing on anyone else in here? I mean, like....he’s the owner/director and registered owner of his own life and Captain of his own ship. Although it was gracious of him to apologize for his actions, why does he need to apologize to ANYONE? Why aren’t those who are taking the time to "throw stones" using that time to....PRACTICE? Does what Donny does with his keyboards change anyone’s life here…..I doubt it!

I go through the same thing in search of a keyboard that I can wear comfortably. The only difference being I’ll try every piece in the store and play each board until the cows come home before I make my choice. If Donny decides to "buy" first and "try" second and "sell" third, then he has every right to do so without answering to anyone. I half envy him that he has the extra moolah to indulge himself. I only wish I had the luxury to do what he does...audition keyboards in the comfort of my living room!

Methinks some of you assassins here might have too much time on your hands in blowing this thread way out of proportion.

Lucky

Dreamer:

You wrote:

1- If someone wants to buy and sell an item there is a dedicated section in this Forum; there is no need to spam other users on a regular basis with this kind of threads here

Lucky: I don‘t consider Donny‘s post as spam. Perhaps you need to end up on some rogue’s mailing list and then you’ll see what spam really is! The worst Donny did was take up ½ inch of posting space on the message board.

But...
2- like Mike wrote, someone here has a serious problem, as shown by the number of (mostly useless) threads he keeps on posting.

Lucky: Right…..and no one else in here has any “problems!“ I consider cancer a problem…..NOT selling my keyboards!

This has a negative impact on this Forum and many times I have found myself thinking that the Synthzone would be a better place without this kind of "impulsive" members.

Lucky: I don’t know. I saw this posting 2-3 days ago and don’t remember suffering any serious bouts of depression after reading it. Further “the Synthzone would be a better place” ...if folks here spent more time playing and trading musical ideas instead of talking about other members.

So I am glad to know that someone has decided to take a temporary vacation from the Forum, even if I seriously doubt that he will be able to stick to this decision.

Lucky: I hope he doesn’t (take a vacation). He is as valuable a member as anyone. Try looking at the rest of what he’s about (the good stuff) instead of just pointing out his famous keyboard sales!

Good luck

Lucky I enjoyed reading your posts & agree with most of what you said here. Finally a voice of reason. It's very refreshing vs all the constant negativity, ill will & controversy.

Thank You

It's obvious that you and I have different opinions on this subject; unfortunately I have no interest whatsoever in discussing this issue with you.
Maybe, if you had been a member of this Forum for a longer time, you could understand a little more the reasons that led me to write what I wrote. I have to say, however, that I kind of envy your naivete.
Good luck to you as well.

I for one hope Donny stays around -
Memo to Dnj - even with your holiday gig schedule, I KNOW you can find time to visit and post -
What difference does it make to ANYONE how many kbs Donny buys or sells or how often ?!?!? .. If it is the fact that Donny praises whatever kb is in his hands at the time and that might lead someone to buy it when it might not be the right kb for that person, then who is the fool - Donny for praising it or the person who buys it based ONLY on someone else's evaluation ?!?!? ...
As I have often stated, much to the wonderment of a LOT of people here, I am STILL playing a technics kn6000 ... not based on the evaluations of anyone here to be sure, but based on MY OWN NEEDS AND DESIRES !!! and I KNOW that dollar for dollar, feature for feature, sound for sound, it is better than any board ANY of YOU are playing !!!

Donny - stick around man - this board is the BEST BECAUSE of the sum of its parts ...
And as far as posting that he has goods for sale, how many others have done the same thing?

t.

"not based on the evaluations of anyone here to be sure, but based on MY OWN NEEDS AND DESIRES !!! "


Tony..same here....I listen to no one's sale pitch...or my "flaky friends"..

I use what I like...popular or not...I went with the Roland G1000 on it's own merit and it turned out to be a "BIG" winner for me..

I also tried many other Roland boards and also Ketron, Korg, Casio, and Yamaha...the hard way...I purchased them.. ...really the only way to get to know what they can do...

Other people opinions are not the reason I keep or determine to "dump" a board..

Even my decision to buy a G70 did not come easily...not because it wasn't a great board...I knew it would be...as I mentioned before I owned all the prior models that were incorporated in the G70...What made it a slower process than normal for me to get the G70...I was already more than pleased with my G1000..

After a few months owning the G1000 and the G70...I had an offer I couldn't refuse for my G1000..

Opinions do not sway me!!!!!!!!

It would be a real shame to lose Donny on this forum, especially for a bullshit reason like trading keyboards. He trades often, I tend to hold on to a board forever. I'm no better or worse than he is and vice versa. These things shouldn't matter. The fact that he does trade often is a good thing for me because he always posts detailed reviews here from a pro's point of view and these are very helpful to me. Plus I appreciate his sense of humor and love of life.

Joe

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Songman55
Joe Ayala

Over the past two years I have often found myself in the buy/trade/sell circle. For those who haven't been involved, it is possible to spend little - and possibly make a little - on each transaction. Much has to do with your purchase price and your selling price. If you can buy a $1500 board for $1100 and use it for three months and sell it for $1250, where's the loss.

Donny doesn't necessarily have MORE money than the rest of us (altho I hear he's filthy rich ) but I'm sure his separate music account fluctuates up and down with each purchase. I'm sure if he didn't have the cash and the opportunities at keyboards he would be a little less "impulsive."

Why doesn't Donny just buy one of EVERYTHING (after all, he is so heavily booked, I'm sure he could afford it!) and go out with a different arranger every night...?

THERE'S your permanent cure for boredom, eh?!

What worries me is that anybody takes anything he says seriously at all, ESPECIALLY his so called 'opinion' about any arrangers, which he doles out liberally every chance he gets... Why should we be worried? Because every opinion he holds, both good and bad about ANY arranger will change 180º as soon as he either acquires it or sells it... and he has gone through every arranger there is, short of the T3 (which will be next... ).

If an opinion is so easily completely reversed, what value did it have in the first place? It isn't an 'opinion'...

It's a 'whim', a 'fancy', a 'delusion'...

If it takes a matter of a couple of weeks to completely reverse your first opinion, what worth is that opinion to anyone..? Ask Donny what he likes today and why, be prepared to listen to him completely reverse it tomorrow. Now, I don't know about you, but how can that be of ANY use to anyone, ever?

What is sad is that apparently, Donny has the skills to entertain and be well booked. But does he post anything much about that (other than to self aggrandize?). To be honest, no, not much. But he posts CONSTANTLY about equipment, how good his current arranger is, how bad everything else is (until he buys it!)....

If he really wanted to be useful on this forum, why not give the obviously capricious equipment reviews a break for a while, and just concentrate on talking about MUSIC, playing it, selling it, repertoire, hats, whatever...?

ANYTHING but an arranger review. Because I for one don't need to know how good his current arranger is, and how bad all the others are... I've heard it until I'm sick to death of it!

+1!

Diki - I would shake your hand right now if I could!

That's better than me (and my friend Capt. Russ) who more often find ourselves in the buy/buy/buy circle (or is that a straight line?). Our way is harder on the pocketbook .

chas

I think Nigel should open up a new forum for member bashing. It seems so easy for many of our "honored" members to dis- another that it takes the fun out of reading. I'd rather read someone's current opinion than none at all. Given, Donny may be fickle with his choice of arangers, but I've never found his opinions to be off-base or untruthful. In fact, Donny will tell you the good and bad points of the keyboard(s) he owns, IMHO.

If this is going to become a personal bashing forum, then count me out.

Call it what you will..., but Donny's keyboard swaps at least put him in a place many of us CAN'T speak from.., and that's actually OWNING the keyboard we talk so much sh*%& about Donny may have gone through quite a few, but at least he can speak from the REAL experience of owning the bloody thing and putting it through its paces (in regards to gigs).

How can you say a person's opinion isn't valuable when he has owned and used pretty much everything that's out there.., current and past? So what if he is going back and forth. Hell.., I wish I had the money (and an understanding wife) to do that...

At least Donny is giving the pros and cons about these keyboards and NOT TROLLING for one specific company.

Leave the man alone..

Yep, that's about it, Diki...pretty hard to put any value on something that changes so radically.


Ian

I haven't been around this forum long enough to know "who are friends and who is joking with each other because of longstanding "online or even face to face contact. Some people put a smiley at the end of some pretty caustic comments! I do find the forum useful but there is enough stress in life without logging in to see someone's character assassinated or intelligence questioned. I am not interested in personal attacks on other forum members. It may be entertaining for some but not for me. Let's stick to gear,how we use it,tips and tricks etc. If Nigel wants to set up another thread called "The Libelous Lounge" I'll know what to avoid. Cheers!
Brian

Nigel.., I suggest closing this topic. It's bad enough with the constant trashing of one board over the next, one's playing ability over the next, this guy uses SMF's blah blah blah...,

Now members have gotten so bored they're attacking the spending/buying practices of others... Apparently owning numerous models and ACTUALLY using these on gigs doesn't qualify a person to give an opinion to some here.

Last time I checked Donny isn't the only one here who has done this.., but he's the one being singled out.

Too all those who have bitched and moaned about having to read all these posts from Donny on this issue..., YOU MADE THE CHOICE TO READ THE TOPIC. I don't recall anyone here putting a gun to another members head forcing them to read the posts.



[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 12-01-2008).]

So then DON'T out any value on it !!!
Life is all about choices ....
t.

So true Tony...some just make more than others.

I'm in Donny's court on this one. In the last year I have had as many keyboards as Donny PSR3000, Tyros 2, G70, Pa800. Now I own the Pa2xPro and an S900. I'm one restless and a bit frustrated musician at times. Difference is Donny maintains a higher profile on this forum than I do, so he gets bashed. One thing I can say is Donny has been a great help when I ask for it, I've had a number of phone conversations with him in the past and he has set me on the right path. I'd hate to see him not visit and post to the forum. Many of his topics get the most hits and responses. Besides as Tony Mads states, " Life is about choices." And if you've been blessed with the resources to do so, then all the more power to you.

Steve,

I don't think any of us want Donny to leave...I really like the guy and we have had many chats through private e-mail and he's always been a gentleman.

And, personally, I don't think Donny has a "problem"...I think he just gets bored with using a particular arranger and wants something different...that's understandable.

What might be hard to understand sometimes is the reversal in opinion on instruments...as it's already been said, he bashes one for a time and then buys it...then it's better than the rest...then he gets bored, or influenced by someone or something, and the Holy Grail becomes another tin cup...fairly confusing for any lurkers out there, especially when Donny posts these reversals so often(I don't know where he finds the time if he's gigging so often).

He's had his friends and others talk him out of buying or selling...he even invites this quite often...and, then it all changes again.

I don't have anything against his buying practises....that's his own business, but you must admit, it all gets a little confusing and sometimes even amusing.

This place would be pretty dull without Donny's antics...I miss him already.

Ian

Seems this thread has become a tug-of-fun, (not war) between Donny sympathisers and Donny bashers...

...but if we analyze closely, no one here dislikes Donny, nor they question his musicianship/entertainer status.

As said before, and judging from previous audio snippets posted, Donny is exceptional, gifted in a way, in what he does. So some of us may have to look closely and copy what he does.

In the same manner, some of us may want to distance ourselves a little from his comments on various arrangers, because (in my humble opinion) there isn't any "read-between-the-lines-and-ye-shall-discover-the-truth" in Donny's comments, but only some kind of constant thoughts. More like a blog, or a diary. He seems to write about what is currently on his mind.... And if his mind changes opinion, it reflects on the writing as well.

I think the forum will be poorer without Donny, as much as it is poorer now than it was some years ago.

OMG...what is wrong with you people. A guy posts a for sale ad because he want's to try something else, and the next thing you know he's being asked not to leave the forum.

WTF? Some of you (and you know who you are) should just hang around the Brittany Spears or Taylor Swift Fan forum(s) with people your own age.

Gimme a break.

Hi Squeak,

I admit the fact that 'bashing' another member of the forum is extremely childish but with all due respect the man has lost all credibility for his advice on product information based on opinion or experience.

If you go to a Ford dealer and a salesman tells you how great this particular Ford is and that everything else is no good, that may be fair enough and you might beleive him - he may be telling the truth, but then if you go across the rd 2 weeks later to a Dodge dealer and the same salesman is there now saying that Dodge is the greatest then what are you going to think of this salesman??

Its so obvious that when Donny has a particular keyboard - he very sneakily (not sure if thats a word lol) slips in those posts and threads about "ohh how come no one is buying Tyros 3s" and "how come Korg has all these problems? hope it gets fixed in OS 2.0"... stuff like that...

it may sound innocent but we all know what the motive is behind it...

Donny has a great character, hes always been helpful and jumped on his email to send someone (myself including) when we need a particular style or whatever. I just think the act is a bit too childish or attention seeking for my liking and it appears that a few other members of this forum get annoyed as well...

Nick

by the way Donny - Please dont leave the forum!

I just think that sometimes when I log on its like "this forum is all about Donny and what he is doing today"...

Maybe another quick solution to thread spamming could be if members were restricted to only creating 2 threads per day per forum...

what does everyone think?

It also doesn't help when Donny's bashed by members in topics that he has nothing to do with.., nor even posted under. Bringing him up in this mannor is clearly childish and instigative....

I do see where your coming from Squeak, but when someone posts anything in an internet forum, they have to take into account that any other member can read the post and they have a right to comment or voice there opinion on it.

Squeek I am worried that you are not actually reading my posts above as well as Diki's and Ian's word for word? I think you will find we are being fair and reasonable in our responses on this topic...

My opinion Donny has bought this all on by himself... He came out saying "why bother anymore im leaving the forum etc etc" and members are finally stepping up saying "finally he realizes how embarrassing he is!"

Its his decision if he wants to leave or not so lets move on and talk about Arranger keyboards...

Nick

"Maybe another quick solution to thread spamming could be if members were restricted to only creating 2 threads per day per forum...

what does everyone think?"

Nick..if that was the case...we wouldn't have your last post..in response to Squeak...

Nick..., I am reading the posts. I've read all of them. What you need to understand is that I may not agree with your point of view. Doesn't make me, you, Diki, or Ian wrong or right.., but I am reading the posts.

I will say that no good comes from a topic when members resort to such childish and instigative tactics like bringing up a members name in other posts that have NOTHING to do with that member. I'm not talking about this particular post.., but to use a post a member has no association with as an outlet to go OT and make snide comments is just childish.

Also these topics quickly go to sh*&$ because some members can't accept that other's have a different view on the subject... Just because a person doesn't share your opinion does not mean they don't understand the topic or what's going on. They just don't agree with you. Simple as that.



[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 12-01-2008).]

So you noticed this as well...very interesting.

Ian

Sorry Fran - I meant Threads/Topics not Posts.

Fair call Squeak, understood. we all have our opinions, I respect yours and happy that you can respect mine...

I've always respected your opinions Nick. I know that not everyone is going to be on the same page as I am regarding an opinion to a subject, but how boring this forum would be if everyone was on the same page

If anyone had looked closely at my posts, it is easy to see I don't want Donny to take his ball and go play somewhere else. I would like Donny to post MORE, in fact. But I'd like Donny to post about things that his opinion DOESN'T change 180º every few weeks, that plenty of members here COULD benefit from.

There is much he could do to contribute, and make this place into a far better environment, but as probably 90% of what he posts is reversed within weeks, and ALL of it is argued with fervor, it isn't, IMO, helping anything other than get this place the reputation it so unarguably deserves. Next to nothing about music, next to nothing about playing, and every last whim argued for (or against) as if it were dogma. And Jihad against anyone that dares contradict what his 'opinion of the day' is

It's like working in an Alzheimer's ward Donny has conveniently forgotten every last jibe, taunt,. putdown, snide or backhanded comment he made about everyone ELSE'S arranger as soon as he changes (for all the 'pro-Donny' faction, how about just a LITTLE criticism of how snide HE can be when it suits him, eh? Or is it only US that isn't allowed to be offhand? )

Trouble is, for those of us just a little less capricious, it is only too easy to remember how hostile he could get while he was on the other side of the fence. You would honestly think, by now, that as he already KNOWS just how often he is going to change, being a little less hostile during the brief time he will have with what he has about everything else (and a little less gushing about what he DOES) would make these frequent transitions so much smoother for us all

You know, it's the third rail for a politician to flip-flop positions in the US (probably most places). You MIGHT get away with reversing your position once, but that's it. Reverse it every few weeks, and NO-ONE will ever vote for you again... Donny flip-flops constantly, but somehow mysteriously expects us to still take him seriously (and gets all huffy when he doesn't get it). He would not give respect to anyone else that was as inconstant, why expect it from us..?

Why not restrict himself to opinions that he has held for a year or more? Like playing styles, entertaining (you KNOW he doesn't change his act so radically every few weeks - he wouldn't be booked at all doing that!), stuff he is SURE he won't reverse next week.

But to offer an opinion that no reasonable person could possibly infer isn't going to get reversed is just a waste. It isn't just tossing pearls before swine.

It is tossing swine before pearls...

Don't take your ball and leave, Donny. Let's just play a different game. One where the rules don't change every quarter...

Some food for thought:

(From Wikipedia.org); more references can be found here

Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) is usually considered to be a neurobehavioral[1] developmental disorder.[2] It affects about 3-5% of school aged children[3] with symptoms starting before seven years of age. It is characterized by a persistent pattern of impulsiveness and inattention, with or without a component of hyperactivity.[4] ADHD occurs twice as commonly in boys as in girls.[5] ADHD is generally a chronic[6] disorder with 10 to 40% of individuals diagnosed in childhood continuing to meet diagnostic criteria in adulthood.[7][8] As they mature, adolescents and adults with ADHD are likely to develop coping mechanisms to compensate for their impairment.[9]

Though previously regarded as a childhood diagnosis ADHD can continue throughout adulthood.[10] ADHD has a strong genetic component.[11]

The most common symptoms of ADHD are[24][25]:

* Impulsiveness: acting before thinking of consequences, jumping from one activity to another, disorganization, tendency to interrupt during conversations.[24]
* Hyperactivity: restlessness, often characterized by an inability to sit still, fidgeting, squirminess, climbing on things, restless sleep.[24]
* Inattention: easily distracted, zoning out, not finishing work, difficulty listening.[24]

Not knowing Donny in person I cannot be 100% sure that this is his problem, but sure as hell he HAS a problem that needs treatment.
I don't want him to leave this Forum, but the way he is now he can give this Forum only 20% (maybe) of what he has to offer; the remaining 80% of the time in my opinion he is just making a fool of himself and is losing all his credibility, like others have remarked, and this is really a sad thing.

LEAVE DONNY ALONE!!!!!!!!





chas

now, wasn't it funny to read this thread so far?

especially last two posts!

now really, no one hates donny, you couldn't since he's always very nice and helpful. we all are happy to read his posts, they are always colourful and that is always good!

it's just the mind changing every two weeks that is confusing. for everyone. and is not only donny who did it, i remember someone else from this forum that did the same too. last week sold the pa800, only to buy it again this week.

Who?

I think some of you guys are really getting carried away with your psycho-BS analysis of Donny.

As a Physician Andrea, to be posting definitions on adhd in reference to Donny, I think is utterly unprofessional and unethical.

So Donny changes his mind alot...So Donny asks leading questions often...

So?

Now, I don't work in a recording studio nor am I a doctor, but I've got a sense of manners and decency about me, as most of the participants here share...and this negative riffing has really gone way overboard.

It stopped being humorous days ago...

To suggest because he changes his mind as he does he may need medical attention is ridiculous. As the parent of two children who were mis-diagnosed with adhd, your comments are particularly offensive.

From the experts in attention deficit disorders we've spent time with and who have examined our two kids when they were much younger, only when it effects a person's ability to live and function "normally" is the possibility of a clear diagnosis in order.

I don't think any reasonable person would feel comfortable throwing words around like you have, based on the fact that he changes his KB of choice quite often.

Donny has been a successful working musician in a very competitive area of this country for a long, long time. His career stands on its own merits. He has a great family. Donny seems to be a rather solid guy who changes his mind on keyboards alot. He's lived a life that many people would be envious of. To earn a respectable living doing what you love is admirable. Doesn't make him perfect, not at all, but he should garner some respect...

I was going to say what gives anyone the right to be as cutting and critical towards anyone on this forum, but I know the answer. Freedom of cyber speech serves as a protective cloak for countless on the internet everyday...But just because you can say just about anything doesn't mean you should...

In the end, I suppose our membership reflects that of society...some really great folks...some real jerks and most of us struggling in the vast middle...

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Bill in Dayton

[This message has been edited by Bill in Dayton (edited 12-02-2008).]

Right on, Bill!

At that let's close this discussion and move on.

Well said Bill! Time to close this thread.

Cheers!

Brian

This is really sad to read. What is going on here is uncalled for. Bill makes some very good sense especially on that so called doctor post which is shameful.
This all started with a post to sell Roland items? This feeding frenzy is something everyone should look into a mirror about.

Hopefully the original poster does not change from the S900 to something else in the next 6 months. Because that would only show that there is probably a problem and his credibility on the greatness of an arranger would be valueless. Not withstanding the great player he is. No one is saying that he does not help people, no one is saying that he is not a good entertainer, but it is quite the opposit.
That is why there is concern for his unstable arranger behaviour

What's not sinking in here, guys?

Question his evaluations on the various KB's he's had all you want, but my lord..."That is why there is concern for his unstable arranger behaviour"

Seriously...think about what you just wrote. Play it out in your mind...

...Uh, hello...keyboard danger hotline? Great...I have a friend who I think, really needs some help. What kind of help? Well, medical, I guess. Symptoms? headaches-no...feeling ill, not that I'm aware of...But I'm telling ya, he needs to be seen right away! Is their a doctor available today? Wait...I'm sorry, yes, of course the doctor needs to know what my friends problem is. Let me start over again...Its more his behavior I'm worried about. What kind of behavior you ask? Well, he keeps changing his mind about what arranger keyboard he prefers. He's had several and it seems whichever one he has at the moment is the best dang thing in the world. However, within a few weeks or months he's no longer happy and swaps it out for another one. Have you ever heard of such a thing? He seems very unstable about his thought processes and I'm really concerned for him. Any other symptoms? I'm not sure...Does he have a full time job?...he sure does...he runs his own business...Does he have a fairly stable family life? Yes, great wife...family-the works...

Can I hold? Sure...

...

...Yes, I'm still here. Oh....I see...uh-uh...ok...if you say so...What do you mean he sounds like he's healthier than I am? How dare you!

...

Get a grip people and stop typing whatever the hell pops into your brains, ok?

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Bill in Dayton

Some of you folks need to quit spending your nights at the Holiday Inn. One night doesn't make you a medical doctor or qualified to diagnose a person with any sort of disorder.

Bill you should be a comedy writer.
But all kidding aside, many of these posts here & you can reread them if you dont know, are just uncalled for, mean spirited.
For Pets sake everyone it's only an arranger keyboard. Everyone is already reluctant to post songs, now with this they will be afraid to give an opinion on gear also for fear of ridicule too.I don't get it?

I find Andrea to be one of the good guys here. He's literate and has an attitude I wish more had. I'm sure his discussion of ADD related issues was sincere and based on his qualifications as a physician.

Let's not bash one of the "good guys". He has his opinions and his right to comment.


I appreciate him.

And, if Donny has a problem trading keyboards often, I probably have a greater problem... NEVER trading. Owning over 300 stringed instruments and 29 keyboards sounds pretty
"mental" to me. It takes a warehouse to store all the "junk".

Donny is extremely passionate and impulsive. That goes along with his "right brainer" abstract "entertainer" personality. Nothing wrong with that. In fact it's quite entertaining, sometimes.

Frankly, I didn't like Donny much at first, until I started looking beyond the surface.

He's a "keeper"!


Russ

Russ wow! How many total items do you have to need a warehouse?

Also Looking beyond the surface does make a lot of sense instead of mean spirited attacks which are not warranted.

Note the difference between Russ and Donny, though...

Russ doesn't slag everybody else's gear when he acquires a new keyboard, and then doesn't slam it (and it's users) when it gets relegated to the warehouse. Class behavior all around, IMO...

Some of you are acting like we are crucifying Jesus Christ, here. Far from it! Jesus is the one who urged us to 'turn the other cheek' NOT go 'an eye for an eye'.

Donny is merely reaping what he has sown for years. The chicken hats are coming home to roost

Sorry guys but i really agree with Diki on this one.

Its so frustrating to be given all this advice from someone (Donny) about how great his keyboard is and how crap Korg or Yamaha are and then a few days later he sells his keyboard and buys the one hes been bagging out.

Thats what I find extremely frustrating. It looks like Diki, Ian and possibly a few others feel like this as well.

For the ones that dont feel this way thats fine, but you need to respect the way we feel about this and we are not going to just accept the strong comments you are making about us and our opinions on this matter...

Donny has basically shot himself in the foot. And he has done this far more than just once... And like Diki said - we don't want him to dissapear and not come back.

Nick

I just got home and cannot believe this BS is still going on. Are you people really obsessed with someone changing a keyboard. What will you do if he puts this S900 up for sale next week with "serious offers only"? This has to be the wackiest thread of all time.

This is not someone 'changing a keyboard'...

This is someone never NOT changing his keyboard.

Big difference. Most of us change arrangers now and again. Not again, and again, and again, and again...

None of us would even give a sh*t if Donny wasn't constantly haranguing those with something other than what he is using that month, and stirring all kinds of pots.

Some of us have got quite tired of it. But we simply wish he'd contribute to the forum with a more positive mien, rather than this constant (or inconstant!) 'my arranger is the best! (until I change it)' litany.

And this thread is STILL going on because guys like us BOTH are keeping it going. It's sure not going to stop if you keep coming back and going 'I can't believe we are still posting about this' because by doing so, you are STILL posting about it

Kind of self-perpetuating, ain't it?

With all this publicity that Donny is getting, I’m sure he’s going to be asked to appear on American Idol very soon (at last count, there were a total of 216 posts for just 3 DNJ “topics).“ This thread is going all the way to the top. It will break the all-time # of responses and he’ll eventually be given a reprieve and go home with the Golden Enchilada trophy cup.

At this point, I really don’t think this is about Donny anymore (if it ever really was). I think it is more about what Chas said here:
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/018681.html

Donny just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could have been any one of us. If he had waited another week to “make confession,” it probably WOULD have been any one of us.

In the meantime, the other threads are floundering while the Gladiators do battle here in the Coliseum.

No shortage of gladiators whilst you're around...

No one really gives a vole's colon about Donny changing keyboards so often...it is his taunting remarks, innuendos and posts that attempt to put down every other arranger except the one he happens to be using that month (or week)that can become a little taxing to more than a few of us.

Then, when he gets exposed(and no, I'm not teasing him about his admission of "playing naked" ) he runs away like a child in a game that isn't going his way.

I hope he comes back...I miss him being around, but I would also hope the gibelike behavior is curtailed and his posts return to the more interesting ones of which he is usually capable.

Ian

I'll agree, since he left there's been a stagnant atmosphere, if it weren't for this thread we'd be talking about Guitar Strings and Moog Bass Pedals.

John, I have a warehouse I use for my production company. That's where the video editing suite, video and photo production areas are, and lots of video and still camera gear and lighting equipment is stored.

Add to that over 300 stringed instruments, 29 keyboards, including B-3's, Suitcase Rhodes and more, plus three sets of vibes, upright basses, 40 or so amps, Leslies, stage lights, etc.

I'm a pack rat and I know it. Surprisingly, I use quite a big percentage of the musical stuff regularly. Sometimes I switch out instruments to combat boredom. Other times, I choose the right instrument for the differenct jobs and styles.

Also have motorcycles, motorscooters and a couple of old cars in the warehouse.

Did not get the warehouse just for the equipment; just cluttered it up with it.

Russ "pack rat" Lay


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Damn, Diki...really well-placed "chicken hat" reference!


R.

Happy Holiday everyone!

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Hi Donny...nice to see you back...did you get your S900 yet?

Same to you, Bro'.

chas

Stick to your beliefs, Donny. And have the best holiday, EVER!


R.

Russ its good people like you & a few others that make me want to stay.....

Thank You

I'm starting to see more clearly now what this is all about. Still not sure if I agree with the "crucification," but....I'm beginning to see the bigger picture.