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#125953 - 12/15/01 09:10 AM
Re: If you were to pick 2..., which ones?
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
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Quick search of midi file and playback: 1)SD1 2)9000Pro 3)VA7 4)PA80 However, even though I've ranked them in what I think is the fastest to slowest, the difference between all 4 of these is very small. They are all very good for speed. In sounds, 1)SD1 2)VA7 3)PA80 4)9000Pro Again, the difference is very slight between the 4. In other catagories, such as style, user friendliness, effects, etc. the orders would also change, but I'm only evaluating what you have asked for. George Kaye Kaye's Music Scene Reseda, California
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#125954 - 12/15/01 04:52 PM
Re: If you were to pick 2..., which ones?
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Registered: 01/30/00
Posts: 367
Loc: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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I do find it intriguing that people are still trying to decide which keyboard is #1, #2, #3 and so on . . .
Many of the "pros" that earn their living playing keyboard have switched to the Yamaha 9000PRO or other Yamaha product. Yeah, everyone knows I love my 9000PRO, and am a bit biased but when I see people like Scottyee and Uncle Dave switching to Yamaha for live performances, it does make me think that I've made a wise choice. George, you're as biased in favor of Ketron as I am with Yamaha. Frank, go with your gut.
Steve
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#125955 - 12/15/01 08:43 PM
Re: If you were to pick 2..., which ones?
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
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Steve, I really don't think I'm so "biased" in favor of the SD1. I mentioned in my post that in evaluating only these two catagories, I would rank them in such an order. As to panel sounds, quality control, effects, user friendliness, etc. I would not have the same order of abilities. I think I have shown over the years that I recommend many different keyboards to members of this forum to fit their needs. I think in reviewing my posts over the years you would have to agree I try to show no bias in my opinions. I do however, try to answer questions with as much thought as possible to help make the decesion process a bit easier. I think all you readers know I carry in my store most of the keyboards we talk about on this forum. George Kaye Kaye's Music Scene
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#125957 - 12/16/01 06:28 PM
Re: If you were to pick 2..., which ones?
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4333
Loc: Norway
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Who knows...... Maybe the answer to your questions would be Technics? Why not tell some dealers to start support that brand too, maybe many keyboardusers who never tried any of the brilliant KN keyboards would be surprised by the quality and user- friendlyness etc. Maybe we are spoiled here in my area, when I go to town, I find two dealers within a 500m. cirkle, and then most all brands are covered The big problem is to find time enough to try out all this great stuff..... GJ
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#125958 - 12/16/01 10:43 PM
Re: If you were to pick 2..., which ones?
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Frank, It will come down to ease of use vs. cutting edge sounds. I believe the SD1 has a slight edge in the sound dept, but the operating system is way behind the brilliant simplicity of the 9kpro. In addition to simplicity, Yamaha has added some "spice" that the SD1 doesnot have - music finder, OTS, multi pads (correct me if I'm wrong .... SD1 does not have those) The drum patterns on the 9k are simpler, yes - but SOOO musical and logical in progression. I appreciate the Q&A session, but these two kb's are so expensive - you really NEED to have alot of hands on time to make this desision. I was pre-sold on the SD1 in the store, and after the first set on the job .... I put it right back in the box. I could tell that it would not work well for me. Take a trip wherever you need to, but play the heck out of them both first.
George - I don't think you are biased in ANY way ! YOu like what you like (just like all of us) but you tell it like it is when asked. An informed preference is NOT bias. Keep up the good work!
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#125959 - 12/16/01 10:54 PM
Re: If you were to pick 2..., which ones?
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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After reading the title of this post again .... I'm thinking - why would anyone really want two (or more ) arrangers? I have a lot of gear in my studio, but they all serve a specific purpose that the others cannot. I have the 9kpro as my main compositional/recording kb. I have a Roland FP3 piano, because of the 88 keys and real piano action - mostly for clients that like to record on acoustic pianos. I have the hammond XK2 organ - this is an indulgence because I got a great trade in deal on it. I LOVE the drawbars and leslie, and even if it's only for me - it's great to have in the studio. The PSR2k is just for live work - it stays in my car all the time.. ready to go to work. Lastly, there is "Old Faithfull" the i5S, just incase I need two setups on the same gig (happens a lot when cocktails are in a different room than the dancing)
If I ever get really satisfied with anything again - I'll get two, so one stays at home and one travels in the car. That way - I am not confused by which number registration, which organ patch etc....is which. I love simplicity. So far the Yamahas are close enough in design that I am in the comfort zone with them both, and I really only keep the Korg as an emergency backup.
Why do some of you feel the need to have several of the same kind of toy/tool in your setups? I find that I make better music when I'm NOT learning a new system or patch list. Isn't it confusing to have 3 or 4 of the arrangers on hand at once? Just curious....
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