I tried the ec5 at my first gig today......not a great fit using the apex stand as the legs and pedal plug conflict to get a good position.....might be better using my X stand we will see.........all I really need is a single pedal for VH on/off....or maybe use the ec5 for recording.....I don't know yet..just like the CS......its not for me.......time will tell.....I'll try again tonight.