And, if those that like the T4 weren't so vocal about IT being the 'best' arranger out there, responses like Fran's would be rarer.

This forum is ALL about 'push and shove', as, to be honest, ANY forum is likely to be when it is about hardware, rather than music (and even on forums about that, there is a certain amount of contrary 'opinion' ).

But you can't be selective in your criticism of the use of the word 'best', Ian. Start contradicting Yamaha fans (or at least pointing out THEIR error in using the word 'best') before you start contradicting others, Ian, otherwise it simply becomes just one MORE example of fanboy behavior.

Me, I think they ALL suck! The day I hear an arranger that actually sounds like (and behaves like) REAL musicians will be the first! I am an equal opportunity critic