Originally posted by Dnj:
I know these WS can do so many things....BUT I have YET to hear any normal everyday musician produce a quality sounding approaching PrO recording using only the WS....everyone I listen to sounds so amateurish, unbalanced, and not of a professional caliber at all. Are these things that hard to create with or is it more USER error in playing ability or lack of knowledge?
At 7:30 of this here is a yamaha Pro demo of the XS pattern creation which sound awesome...BUT when you get it home and try it it never sounds like this?....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbsZ6Gur6s&feature=related
[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 02-16-2009).]The Motif is different then the traditional WS. Take a Tyros 3 a step back. On the T3 I can whip up any song my wife needs in any key. We did a quick cut of Unforgettable for her Valentine gig in 10 minutes using chord changes and some polishing in exactly the key she needed using a jazz ballad style.
However for me the MIDI implementation is horrid. When I revoice a style i want to HEAR the voice Im revoicing on the track. NOT the R1 or R2 voice in memory. I want to send style Midi out without having to create a song. I want to make pattern based phrases without having to deal with workarounds.
The T3 cannot replace the XS, nor vice versa., But they compliment each other.
The Motif allows one to CREATE multi channel Arps/styles in pattern mode just using rhythm
Play a bass part on the same not ..just the rhythm, same with drums, guitar and another Arp.let it loop and change parts listening for the best combination. This cannot be done on the Tyros. Then save the pattern as a Voice/Arp or use it in song construction.
So I get to write from a with blank pageout having to arrange the individual parts as 6000 arps take care of that. IF I cannot find and Arp I don't have to play the actual part, only the rhythm and velocity switching on a single note. That will translate to chords later when constructing a song. TWO CDS worth of sampling audio can be save on board which means one can create a complete song BEFORE I even fire up the DAW including vocoder and or backup vocals. Then transfer every thing to the DAW and re voice it as needed, edit it or do whatever, send the parts to the T3, EZDrummer, a VSTI.....THEN use the entire Motif as a CONTROL Surface for My DAW with all transport and fader control when mixing the audio down.
Voices contain up to 8 elements.Thats a lot of salt and pepper. My VSTI Dimension only has 4. Most synthesis voices only use 4 elements which can be layers according to velocity and or keymapping, controller use etc.
There is no reason one could not create a worthy production on a workstation. Limitations are few and far between, Taeks more work then the T3 but thats how Im used to working and the ARPS will give me the inspiration I bought the T3 for. I am keeping the T3. There are voices on it that cannot be replaced by the XS. Styles will always be able now to be transfers to the Motif, and manipulated there, where ARPS can be switched out., via the DAW. I am looking forward ot the integration.