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#98167 - 02/28/05 01:04 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Islander Offline
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Registered: 01/18/03
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Loc: Dallas, Texas, U.SA.
Dang! I missed the "Tyros 2" picture!!
Oh well

Johnny

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#98168 - 02/28/05 02:02 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
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Zalmi: In legal sense, Yamaha had no point here. The two pictures were no official Yamaha-presentations, and like I said before: If Yamaha didn't want to have such pictures taken by someone in the audience, they should have kept the prototype locked away.

Compare it with "spy-pictures" of the new BMW that end up in every automobile-magazine. That too pisses people at BMW off, but it's news, and so it's published. If you don't want those pictures to be taken, then keep the car off the road where everyone can see it.

So, Yamaha didn't convince me that I -had- to remove the pictures, but they (eventually :-) ) asked me kindly to work with them on this one. And I did. Not because I am forced to legally, but because I value a good relationship with a manufacturer. In -that- sense, I felt that the request Yamaha did was reasonable. I do not run a forum with the intention to get people into trouble.

Yamaha made a mistake, we had a sneak peek, and now we'll just have to wait for the official presentation.

I posted an explanation on my forum about this matter, where I also state that although I could have left the pictures online if I wanted to, I have chosen not to do this.
Because Yamaha asked me, and not ordered me, to remove them. The guy at Yamaha explained to me how big an issue this has become at Yamaha, and in that sense, I felt his request was reasonable.


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#98169 - 02/28/05 02:18 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
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Registered: 02/01/05
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Dear Burkels;

You should have told the fellow at Yamaha you would take the pictures down, if he gave you the slated release date of the Tyros 2 & a spec sheet

Regards;
BN

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#98170 - 02/28/05 02:20 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Pennywizz6 Offline
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Registered: 11/10/04
Posts: 434
Loc: Shakopee, MN, USA
Post the picture, and demand a new tyros to take it down hehe....

Phil

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#98171 - 02/28/05 07:58 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
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Registered: 03/24/99
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Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
Hmmm... maybe Yamaha offered to give him a free Tyros2 if he would take down the pics...

...just wondering...



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#98172 - 03/01/05 01:59 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Burkels Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by TomTomSF:
Hmmm... maybe Yamaha offered to give him a free Tyros2 if he would take down the pics...


Not one. Five. And a Bentley.



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#98173 - 07/21/05 12:59 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
electoneiscool Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlkNotes:

We want a KB to excite & inspre us!!! At the minimum it would be nice to see them place all the advancements/ technology/sound/styles etc..[ AWM tone generation /128 + 128-note polyphony /386 Accompaniment Styles-Mega Voice Styles--
34 Session! Styles ---640 x 480 dot VGA color LCD ,just to name a few, that have already been avaliable on the Clavinovas. [QUOTE]

There is...its called Stagea

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#98174 - 07/21/05 02:23 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Unless there has been some recent change Yamaha stopped producing and selling home organs in or for the US for a few years now.

I worked in the home organ industry from 1976 til the beginning of this year. It was generally accepted in that industry that Yamaha didn't know how to market them in the US. They have a stradegy that was geared more for other parts of the world that did not work here.

One of there most "interesting" marketing strategies was in England where they would buy up all used organs and destroy them to force people to buy new Yamaha organs. Really!

While I've never heard the Stagea and I'm sure it's good for what it is, although out of all the home organ companies there used to be, I really disliked Yamaha organs. They were a bear to try and operate and then try and teach seniors how to use it was a big joke. I was very suprized when I first heard the PSR2000 at how good it was and also was easy to operate.

But mainly, even if the Stagea were available in the US, I don't think it would put any kind of dent in the portable market because of it's size and weight.

Scott Langholff
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#98175 - 07/28/05 02:46 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
electoneiscool Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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First of all Electones are most definitely not "Home organs". They were developed in Japan, where there is no concept of Organ, and they are professional instruments that people can perform on - most people take up an instrument as they aspire to perform on Stage.

The US market has died out more than the UK, but in fact there are currently more Stageas in the US.

Stagea combines all the technology from Tyros and PSR keyboards, the CVP Clavinovas, EL and AR Electones. The EL900m Electone is pretty tough to beat, but Stagea absolutely wipes the floor of them all.

There is definitely a market in the western world, as many people are unaware of electone and its capabilities.

Stagea has been designed to be portable and considering the flexibility and power over a keyboard, the 15 minutes it takes to set up is well worth it.

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#98176 - 08/10/05 03:57 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 97
Loc: Lyngdal in Norway
After reading this thread I guess you are all welcome to start the same discussion, with pictures or whatever, at www.Tyros2.net - The threads there will not be deleted

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