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#98147 - 02/26/05 07:47 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
lahawk Offline
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Ever think of this?

Maybe Yamaha ask to remove the thread and pics, because they are all wrong. Maybe Tyros II is nothing close to what was reported in the thread. Maybe Tyros II is completly different then the picture going around. Maybe Tyros II will have 76 keys. Maybe Tyros II will not even be called Tyros II.

Maybe Yamaha asked the thread to be removed, becuase it was B O G U S, and nothing close to what the final product will actually be.

Just a thought
Larry

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#98148 - 02/26/05 09:46 PM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Tony Rome Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
My opinion is this: Yamaha is working on this prototype. Somebody took an unauthorized photo, and they want to handle the publicity and release in their own time. It will likely be many months before it's ready in its "final" form. (After that, the first wave of buyers will field-test it for them.)
I also feel that Yamaha is too big to want to cater to a few pros. They build the keyboards for the mass market, which is home players. That is where they make the profit. If pros find them adequate to use, fine. If not, fine also. They would rather sell to a million or so buyers than a few hundred.
The 9000 Pro is a perfect example. It's just as much work for them to support a keyboard that's tailored for that few hundred (or thousand) than something like a PSR3000, which appeals to a huge number of buyers.
Also, that huge number is not nearly as critical or demanding as the small number of 9000 Pro users. For every Jim Esh or Dave Boyd or Don Mason there are a hundred thousand Sally Smiths. She is a little old lady who, along with her husband Jim, is retired and enjoys listening to Jim play "Somewhere My Love" with single finger chords and one-note melody, which he plays by following the lighted keys.
Yes, that's probably extreme, but you get the point. The Yamaha US guys such as Steve are wonderful, but in reality have very little to say about what the guys in Japan decide to market. Again, just my opinion.
GEM, Korg and Ketron have indeed released flagships that target pros. I wonder if they are very successful sales-wise.
On a related point, I think the small companies such as Ketron CAN afford to target a more sophisticated clientele. I hope they continue to have the resources and motivation to do this. The Midjay indicates that Ketron is looking at a bigger market--DJ types. For every one of us that plays Arrangers for money, there are most likely thousands of DJ-Karaoke types who have day-jobs that give them expendable money to buy "toys" they can
use on the weekends.
Having said all this, I look forward to seeing what the Tyros 2 has to offer.
DonM



Dom......I think that you hit the nail on the head....every thing you said, I agree with...it's the smart money in Japan that make the rules....everyone else just follows suit...it makes good sound business sence....
Good Call.....

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#98149 - 02/27/05 12:58 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Tom NL Offline
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If anyone would like to take another look at those pictures, here's a link to a Dutch forum where the pictures haven't been removed:
http://www.keyboardforum.nl/index.php?topic=748.0

and this one:
http://www.keyboardforum.nl/index.php?topic=749.0



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#98150 - 02/27/05 02:16 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Burkels Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tom NL:
If anyone would like to take another look at those pictures, here's a link to a Dutch forum where the pictures haven't been removed:
http://www.keyboardforum.nl/index.php?topic=748.0

and this one:
http://www.keyboardforum.nl/index.php?topic=749.0




(And no messages from Yamaha received yet.)
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#98151 - 02/27/05 02:39 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Burkels Offline
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By the way: IF the picture with the guy playing the "Tyros 2" is for real, I don't think Yamaha has much to nag about. Because they let someone play a prototype in public, allowing people to take pictures and filming the thing.


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#98152 - 02/27/05 03:24 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Nigel Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
Good Question Nigel...I thought only you had the power to completly remove a thread, or does the complete thread get deleted when the topic starter deletes the original topic?
Larry



No Larry the originator of the thread has the power to delete the thread at anytime. But TigerFool doesn't have his email address available so if he was the originator of the thread I can't see how Yamaha could have contacted him. That is why I curious about who they contacted. It wasn't me.

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#98153 - 02/27/05 04:35 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
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Nigel, Yamaha contacted me. And I deleted the thread. I donot know how they got my phone number. I forgot to ask.

Quote:
Originally posted by Nigel:
No Larry the originator of the thread has the power to delete the thread at anytime. But TigerFool doesn't have his email address available so if he was the originator of the thread I can't see how Yamaha could have contacted him. That is why I curious about who they contacted. It wasn't me.

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#98154 - 02/27/05 04:52 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Nigel Offline
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Gee I can't see how they can have got your phone number unless they got it from some other posting you may have made elsewhere. There is nothing here that would provide them with that sort of information. It is very puzzling. They couldn't even obtain your IP no. without getting it off me. There is nothing in your profile that would make you traceable.

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#98155 - 02/27/05 04:59 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Burkels Offline
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There seems to be only one way to find out. Let's wake the giant I'll e-mail Yamaha and ask them to have a look on my site to see the image, and I'll ask them what's so wrong with that picture. Either it's not a Tyros II at all, or they may have some other explanation. We'll see.


(EDIT) - Mail sent.

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#98156 - 02/27/05 06:20 AM Re: What happend to the Tyros2 link and discussion?
Burkels Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by tigerfool:
Sorry Everybody, the post was taken off as per Yamaha request.


Weird. It still seems to be here, or is this another discussion?
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/010019.html
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