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#511398 - Yesterday at 02:46 PM Roland FP e50
Bill Lewis Online   content
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2459
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
I know it was discussed somewhere here before but is anyone using the Roland FP E50 ?. It looks pretty amazing, especially the price. The Style list is extensive and it has a real piano keyboard which I miss. I could sell everything and get that for what I do now which is just play at home.
Thoughts ?
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#511399 - Yesterday at 08:39 PM Re: Roland FP e50 [Re: Bill Lewis]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14518
Loc: NW Florida
I think the thing that ruled it out for me is that you can't use user styles, or styles from older Roland's. It's a closed ecosystem, and so far I haven't seen Roland do much towards adding more styles.

Compared to the BK9, it isn't even close. No VK section, no Key Audio, only a fraction of the sounds and a TINY style selection (about 170 total).

If you're content with just a few styles in any genre, it's got a lot going for it. Maybe even a throwback to early 90's style arrangers with few styles and no way to add more, and many of us look back fondly on the simplicity of those early days.

But simply adding a decent cheap 88 piano action controller to your BK9 might give you the best of both worlds and not leave you in a box, stylewise...
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#511401 - Today at 03:19 AM Re: Roland FP e50 [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
I may not be adding much here, I bought a Roland FP30 as primarily a piano, which I am learning to play. I love it for the sound and action. It has many other good sounding voices I seldom use as I have a studio full of arrangers. We are all looking for a particular set of features and this is mine.

Bernie
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#511402 - Today at 08:26 AM Re: Roland FP e50 [Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 489
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona, USA

Hi Bill,

I have played on a Roland FP-E50 at our local Guitar Center. I agree that it is an all-in-one solution at an attractive price point of $800. I could see why you are thinking of trading all your gear for a simplified home setup.

I think the FP-E50 is Rolands answer to Yamaha’s popular DGX-670 that also retails for $800.

Since you already own the Roland FP-90 and two Roland BK9 Arrangers plus the Roland BK7m module I would like you to consider two things:

1.
Keyboard Action

The Roland FP-50 comes with Roland’s Progressive Hammer Action (PHA)-4 Standard Key Action.
This is significantly inferior to the PHA-50 Key Action that you have on the Roland FP-90. The black keys are harder to play closer to the top. Roland somewhat addressed this issue with the PHA-4 Concert Key Action that features longer keys.

I have the Roland RD-88 that features the PHA-4 Standard Action. I much prefer the PHA-50 key action on my Roland RD-2000 which feels luxurious, well balanced and easy to play over all the black and white keys. There is no comparison. I hate to go back to the PHA-4 action on the RD-88.

You will face the same issues when you compare the PHA-4 action on the FP-E50 vs. the PHA-50 action on your FP-90.


2.
Styles

As Diki has already pointed out, you are limited to the small library of onboard factory styles.
You already have the Roland BK7m Backing Module. Why not just MIDI this module into your FP-90 digital piano and enjoy the best of both worlds?

The FP-90 would give you a premium weighted piano action with escapement plus its gorgeous Piano voices with Roland’s Pure Acoustic Modeling engine. You can play all your Piano parts to the backing tracks of the Roland BK7m module.

The PHA-50 key action on the FP-90 feels better than the Kawai Responsive Hammer Action 3 on the MP7SE, better than the RH3 action on the Korg Kronos3 and better than the Graded Expression Action on the Yamaha Montage M8x.

I would suggest not trading in your Roland FP-90. It is one hell of a digital piano. It is not an arranger but your BK7m has you covered.

Best,

David

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#511404 - Today at 09:06 AM Re: Roland FP e50 [Re: Bill Lewis]
Bill Lewis Online   content
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2459
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
Thanks for all the informative responses. I didn't realize the FP e50 was a closed system Style wise like the EA7 and that was one of the questions I had about it. I have all my Songs on my Ipad programmed to change Styles on my BK9 and I would hate to lose that function and start all over. I also didn't realize the keybed was so inferior to my FP90. I thought i was just a little different. I do love the FP90 and I do have it midied to my BK7m usually just for bass/drums. The FPe50 caught my eye at the local music store so I was curious but I now see its drawbacks for me. So I guess my studio setup will not shrink as I have the best of both worlds.
Thanks again for the info.
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