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#482591 - 12/02/19 10:40 AM GENOS - B3
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#482593 - 12/02/19 10:56 AM Re: GENOS - B3 Organs Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Sounds almost as good as the SX!
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#482594 - 12/02/19 10:57 AM Re: GENOS - B3 Organs Demo [Re: Uncle Dave]
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...Sorry - just couldn't resist. Yes, the Genos sounds fantastic.
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#482595 - 12/02/19 11:03 AM Re: GENOS - B3 Organs Demo [Re: Dnj]
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#482596 - 12/02/19 11:04 AM Re: GENOS - B3 Organs Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Agreed - some of the best of the G is inside.
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#482598 - 12/02/19 11:07 AM Re: GENOS - B3 Organs Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Yup Dave! You are right! Just sayin'...


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#482600 - 12/02/19 11:39 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj





Yes the Genos in this video does sound better... and yes there is a but smile

When a B3 player is looking for a B3 substitute .. they are looking for that rich (fat) lower and mid range for comping (left side or lower manual).

I still have not heard this from Genos.. It seems like they want it to fit an arranger player.. period.

Every time it is demoed, they play it from C4, and mostly from F4.. letting the arranger or left hand type bass play.

For this intended purpose it is okay. As a clone to play straight B3, my guess it will not be desired..

Even when this video compared to a Hammond.. they only compared from C4 upper range.. I wonder why grin



Here is an example at the 5:24 mark.






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#482602 - 12/02/19 12:00 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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The problem with Genos is with the speed of the leslie in most of the sounds go from slow to high speed in the instant rather than slowly, how did they manage to change that in the demo? interesting
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#482611 - 12/02/19 01:56 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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They use drawbar organ voices (organ flutes)
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#482623 - 12/02/19 02:39 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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On the preset organ voices, the leslie effects is either instant on or instant off.
If you use the organ flutes, the effect ramps up and down when you hit the switch.
However, you can use a trick on the preset voices that helps a little. When you get ready to change from leslie off to on, slowly raise the joystick until the light comes on, then press the modulation Hold button. To slow it back down, push the joystick up again, disengage the Hold button and slowly let the joystick back down. It helps a little.
Or we just buy Korgs or Rolands or Ketrons. smile
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#482632 - 12/02/19 03:02 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM

Or we just buy Korgs or Rolands or Ketrons. smile


orrrr..... just write a few custom organ flutes patches that match the presets. They all start with drawbar settings, right?
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#482640 - 12/02/19 04:21 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Just use Organ Flutes?
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#482646 - 12/02/19 04:33 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Start with a tone that is named "organ flutes" and set the drawbars the way you like. Then add insert effects, and EQ to match the sound you like in the presets.
Make sense?
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#482649 - 12/02/19 04:41 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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thanks Don
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#482651 - 12/02/19 04:44 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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and thank you Uncle dave and Leeboy

is it possible to add perc to organ flute sound ?
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#482665 - 12/02/19 05:31 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Yup!
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#482693 - 12/03/19 12:03 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Good video.

So, do you suppose the seniors at the nursing home could tell the difference? B3 vs Genos?

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#482694 - 12/03/19 12:37 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Good video.

So, do you suppose the seniors at the nursing home could tell the difference? B3 vs Genos?

😊


Most in a nursing home will have been bought up listening to a real B3, so the answer to your question is yes, with commensurate ease. guitar

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#482695 - 12/03/19 12:41 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Good video.

So, do you suppose the seniors at the nursing home could tell the difference? B3 vs Genos?

😊


Get real people. Lots of people in a nursing home are happy if they can still hear the difference between a piano and a guitar sound !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#482696 - 12/03/19 01:52 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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With much respect, I have to say that very often, our "seasoned" citizens are intensely connected to, and moved by music. Not just the songs from their youth, but all types. When I do a nursing home, or retirement center, I give them a variety show - with everything from Big Bands to Broadway, and Roaring 20s to Rock & Roll. They love the energy, the beat, and the catchy sing-a-long choruses. Many of the residents remember every word to a 75 year old song, even though they've forgotten what they had for breakfast. This is very common, and very touching to witness.

Then, there's the staff - they often play along, and dance to the music to get the crowd into it. Lastly ... there's the PERFORMER (US!) If the sounds inspire US to do a good job, then the audience will feed off the energy. They will share the smiles with us, and we can take the journey down memory lane together. It's a privilege that few other jobs offer., so please don't prejudge the crowd by their conditions, or ages. They might be more in tune with the program than you think!


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#482706 - 12/03/19 07:42 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Senior citizens? +55 sadly the nursing home is right here.


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#482717 - 12/03/19 09:08 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Dave has it right.


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#482718 - 12/03/19 09:11 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: 124]
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Originally Posted By 124
Dave has it right.


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#482725 - 12/03/19 10:47 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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It should be really superfluous having to state the obvious but my remark about guitar/piano was meant in jest. Spurred on really by the endless discussions of which sound sounds slightly better on another keyboard or newer model. For instance if we may believe all stories than the piano sound on e.g. the yamaha keyboards has become better on every arranger keyboard but is still trailing compared to a yamaha piano model etc.etc.
And just for the record I concur with what UD says about the elderly, hell at 68 I am in the midst of them !!!

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#482729 - 12/03/19 10:51 AM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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John - all good! Sometimes I play a nursing home, and get asked by a resident ... "What room are you in?" YIKES!
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#482754 - 12/03/19 01:18 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
John - all good! Sometimes I play a nursing home, and get asked by a resident ... "What room are you in?" YIKES!


And I bet it's a female asking ... surprised
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#482756 - 12/03/19 01:22 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
John - all good! Sometimes I play a nursing home, and get asked by a resident ... "What room are you in?" YIKES!


And I bet it's a female asking ... surprised
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With a 10 to 1 ratio.. that is a good bet smile
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#482758 - 12/03/19 01:24 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
With much respect, I have to say that very often, our "seasoned" citizens are intensely connected to, and moved by music. Not just the songs from their youth, but all types. When I do a nursing home, or retirement center, I give them a variety show - with everything from Big Bands to Broadway, and Roaring 20s to Rock & Roll. They love the energy, the beat, and the catchy sing-a-long choruses. Many of the residents remember every word to a 75 year old song, even though they've forgotten what they had for breakfast. This is very common, and very touching to witness.

Then, there's the staff - they often play along, and dance to the music to get the crowd into it. Lastly ... there's the PERFORMER (US!) If the sounds inspire US to do a good job, then the audience will feed off the energy. They will share the smiles with us, and we can take the journey down memory lane together. It's a privilege that few other jobs offer., so please don't prejudge the crowd by their conditions, or ages. They might be more in tune with the program than you think!


Dave, right on with your statements ...
At a pretty upscale A/L venue a woman came up to me and said "Thank you, so much ... Your performance is so different from others" ... I asked what she meant and she said "You're so lively" ...
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#482761 - 12/03/19 01:34 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
John - all good! Sometimes I play a nursing home, and get asked by a resident ... "What room are you in?" YIKES!


Haha, can relate to that.

We were in a nursing home waiting room a few years back. Bunch of little old ladies sitting opposite. My husbands in a wheelchair, has been for over 40 years. The tea lady wanders over, hello dearie, you in for respite. Half a dozen heads pop up, with a smirk on their faces.
We were booking his mother into the home. We had free coffee and cake , whenever we popped in after that. Haha.
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#482762 - 12/03/19 01:44 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
And I bet it's a female asking ... surprised


I sure hope so, but you never know! smile
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#482764 - 12/03/19 01:51 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
John - all good! Sometimes I play a nursing home, and get asked by a resident ... "What room are you in?" YIKES!


And I bet it's a female asking ... surprised


But, of course!
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#482780 - 12/03/19 02:49 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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What I would have to worry about is the CNA's grabbing me and saying "Let's not play with the musical instruments - we need to get you back to your room!"... just sayin'
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#482782 - 12/03/19 02:56 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
And I bet it's a female asking ... surprised


I sure hope so, but you never know! smile


Yeah, he DOES like his musicals......not that there's anything wrong with that smile smile smile.

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#482788 - 12/03/19 03:22 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: Dnj]
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Guys are a rare species in these places. Haha
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#482791 - 12/03/19 04:03 PM Re: GENOS - B3 [Re: cgiles]
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......not that there's anything wrong with that


A Seinfeld fan, alright! And, yes ... I'm a bit of an odd duck as far as stereotypes go. I cry at most movies, never been in a fist fight, LOVE to break into song, and I'm a Pro-Life Republican who hates guns, and supports marriage equality. I don't check all of ANYbody's boxes. LOL
I DO, however, love to share my gifts with the world, and absolutely LOVE the sound of my grandkid's laughter ... of yeah - and THIS PLACE, too.
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