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#480835 - 11/16/19 11:13 AM
Chord Looper Limits...?
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43707
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How many chords may be added to each "memory slot" of a bank?
"A Yamaha Chord Looper CLD file is a Type 0 Standard MIDI File. To take a quick look inside, rename the CLD file with the ".MID" file extension and then open the file in Mixmaster or Cubase. Not all DAWs support Yamaha XF events, so SONAR, for example, will not work. (SONAR ignores Yamaha XF Meta Events.)
The chord sequence is stored as a series of Yamaha XF Meta Events. See the Genos Data List PDF page 115 for the definition of the "Chord Name" event. See the definition of the System Exclusive "Chord Control" message for the chord root and type encoding.
Since the CLD file is an SMF, it should be possible to store as many chords as you want. Of course, there is probably some practical limit because internal memory is finite...
The chord looper feature looks to be a lot more powerful than I'd thought when I first heard about it. Being able to store 8 sets of chord sequences in a bank will let you effectively set up the backing track for verse, chorus, bridge etc separately and assemble a song on the fly as the mood takes you, while freeing up the left hand for bends, live control, etc. I think it is very interesting.
Together with the extra 1.2GB expansion memory, this update seems to deliver a lot more than the last one.
the chord sequencer is absolutely fantastic and can be stored into registrations also, which makes the chords sequences almost unlimited during performance.
I've set Assignment knobs E and F to record loop and play loop and set the chord looper screen to a tab on the main screen. It's absolutely perfect that way.
I was thinking of making a repository of all common chord progressions. I could name them using the Nasville Number system, 1-4-5, 1-6-5-4, etc, all in the same key. Then all you have to do is import the appropriate progressions for any song into a bank, transpose to the applicable key, and play. Does this make any sense at all?"
Source Psr Tutorial genos forum...
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#480842 - 11/16/19 12:00 PM
Re: Chord Looper Limits...?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Donny,
after finally finishing sorting my style library, I started playing round with the chord looper yesterday.
I think it’s going to be brilliant.
Ok, so I’m not terribly accurate with playing chords, especially some complex ones. If I want to put a bit of chord sequence library together, it has to be accurate.
Obviously not a problem for seasoned players , but I haven’t actually played much in years, my hobby was style converting.
Anyway, there doesn’t appear to be any way of putting the chords in , in step time, so got my thinking hat on,( bit shabby nowadays, ) brought the old
XG Works sequencer software out of hibernation, ( I run it on an external USB thumb drive, as I haven’t been able to install it in any of my pc’s since windows 7) Anyway I think I have found a way of doing them in steptime. Chord loop sequence in 30 seconds.
So, all going well, this is going to be a brilliant function.
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Rikki 🧸
Korg PA5X 88 note
SX900
Band in a Box 2022
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#480866 - 11/16/19 03:46 PM
Re: Chord Looper Limits...?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
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How many chords may be added to each "memory slot" of a bank?
"A Yamaha Chord Looper CLD file is a Type 0 Standard MIDI File. To take a quick look inside, rename the CLD file with the ".MID" file extension and then open the file in Mixmaster or Cubase. Not all DAWs support Yamaha XF events, so SONAR, for example, will not work. (SONAR ignores Yamaha XF Meta Events.)
The chord sequence is stored as a series of Yamaha XF Meta Events. See the Genos Data List PDF page 115 for the definition of the "Chord Name" event. See the definition of the System Exclusive "Chord Control" message for the chord root and type encoding.
Since the CLD file is an SMF, it should be possible to store as many chords as you want. Of course, there is probably some practical limit because internal memory is finite...
The chord looper feature looks to be a lot more powerful than I'd thought when I first heard about it. Being able to store 8 sets of chord sequences in a bank will let you effectively set up the backing track for verse, chorus, bridge etc separately and assemble a song on the fly as the mood takes you, while freeing up the left hand for bends, live control, etc. I think it is very interesting.
Together with the extra 1.2GB expansion memory, this update seems to deliver a lot more than the last one.
the chord sequencer is absolutely fantastic and can be stored into registrations also, which makes the chords sequences almost unlimited during performance.
I've set Assignment knobs E and F to record loop and play loop and set the chord looper screen to a tab on the main screen. It's absolutely perfect that way.
I was thinking of making a repository of all common chord progressions. I could name them using the Nasville Number system, 1-4-5, 1-6-5-4, etc, all in the same key. Then all you have to do is import the appropriate progressions for any song into a bank, transpose to the applicable key, and play. Does this make any sense at all?"
Source Psr Tutorial genos forum... I love the new chord looper function. Yes the possibilities are endless. I have already several saved in registration for Solos. Sometimes the chord progressions in a song are to fast. No time to lift my left hand to use the joy stick effectively for guitar solos. Now all is well.  I can play the song live and when it's solo time I let the chord looper take over for a little while. Brilliant BTW Donny. I put the chord looper shortcut in the lower right corner of the screen to replace the "demo" shortcut which most of us don't need. Plus I programmed the button "D" for start/Stop. This is a feature I wanted for soooooo long. Very happy now  Eric
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