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#452133 - 05/18/18 02:06 PM Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in
Uncle Dave Offline
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Maybe it's me, but there seems to be NO WAY to turn vocal harmony on/off with a footswitch on this unit. Donny started a queery in another thread, but I wanted to make sure more people saw it, so I added a second post with a broader name to attract attention.
There is a menu of choices for what to assign to the foot controllers, but there is no choice to select a mic harmony on/off. This is SO unlikely for a Korg product that decided to put a premier harmony unit on board. Can anyone weigh in on this, please?
George Kaye? Frankie V? Users?
This feature (or lack, thereof) is a dealbreaker for me as a live instrument. Fortunately, I bought mine as a studio piece, and it's not an issue, but now the 1000 can no longer serve as a backup piece for my road rig. Disappointing, if true.
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#452135 - 05/18/18 02:09 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
Fran Carango Offline
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#452140 - 05/18/18 02:38 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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KORG ARE YOU READING THIS POST & THREAD PLEASE FIX THIS?[size:20pt][/size]

http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthread...l_He#Post452047

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#452143 - 05/18/18 02:50 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
DonM Offline
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I looked through the manual. No listing for the foot switch to control VH on/off, but you can assign the Vocal Harmony volume to an expression pedal. That may be what DNJ is hearing, since the pedal he is using is not an expression pedal, but a momentary pedal.
Again, I would love that to happen if it were me.
Still I see no reason to remove the vh on/off from the foot switch menu. I'll bet it's a boo-boo.
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#452155 - 05/18/18 06:15 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
zuki Offline
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you could assign rh3 or 4, etc with it on, if you could assign those changes to the foot pedal


Edited by zuki (05/18/18 06:17 PM)
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#452159 - 05/18/18 06:25 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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I hope they fix it ASAP
In the next Update OS..

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#452162 - 05/18/18 10:04 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Could you set up two sequential user programs (registrations) or OTS's, one with VH off and the other with VH on? Then you could program two foot switches with "next program" and "previous program" to turn the VH on and off.

A clunky workaround, I know. But if the OS lacks this function, you'll have to get creative. Also see my other post about a Midi Solutions Footswitch Controller. If VH can be controlled thru MIDI that's the way to go (and not terribly hard to implement, either.)

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#452165 - 05/18/18 11:14 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
spalding1968 Offline
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To be fair this is hardly a huge problem .

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#452173 - 05/19/18 03:02 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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To many, perhaps not, but for those using VH, it may be.
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#452178 - 05/19/18 04:12 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
spalding1968 Offline
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I hear you Bernie but I just read the headline of the post expecting to read about some terrible new disabling bug found on the pa1000 thst would render it useless or at least seriously impede the use of the board . Can the VH function still be used ? Is the quality of the sound diminished ? The answer is that it can still be used and the sound is not diminished . You just have to use it in a different way than you might have before . I understand if using a foot pedal to switch on and off was what you were used to and now you have to press a button or whatever .But how is that a huge problem ?

I just thought the title was very misleading .


Edited by spalding1968 (05/19/18 04:14 AM)

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#452183 - 05/19/18 06:20 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: spalding1968]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By spalding1968
I hear you Bernie but I just read the headline of the post expecting to read about some terrible new disabling bug found on the pa1000 thst would render it useless or at least seriously impede the use of the board . Can the VH function still be used ? Is the quality of the sound diminished ? The answer is that it can still be used and the sound is not diminished . You just have to use it in a different way than you might have before . I understand if using a foot pedal to switch on and off was what you were used to and now you have to press a button or whatever .But how is that a huge problem ?

I just thought the title was very misleading .



Spalding it IS CERTAINLY A BIG HUGE PROBLEM for PRO "POWER SINGLES" when performing like Uncle Dave, Myself and others....
it was a standard feature in all previous models!!
....why KORG Changed it is unknown at this time..

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#452187 - 05/19/18 07:06 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Can you switch VH off and on yes or no ? It’s certainly not a huge problem .... you just don’t like the way you need to do it using an expression pedal. If that’s a huge problem for you then fair enough . I will but out now as obviously “pro powers singles “ seem to face challenges in using the board that us mere amateurs don’t .

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#452193 - 05/19/18 07:39 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: spalding1968]
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Originally Posted By spalding1968
Can you switch VH off and on yes or no ? It’s certainly not a huge problem .... you just don’t like the way you need to do it using an expression pedal. If that’s a huge problem for you then fair enough . I will but out now as obviously “pro powers singles “ seem to face challenges in using the board that us mere amateurs don’t .


Spalding no problem it will be addressed and or remedied somehow..
hopefully back to previous models scenario as before...pro singers that really use the VH alot will understand what we're talking about. I'd hate to have to keep HOLDING DOWN the pedal when I need VH in a song EACH TIME.

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#452203 - 05/19/18 08:27 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I wish the PA4X would work like that. I would LOVE to have vh only when I hold the pedal down. I just got a pedal to try it. Of course I have to wait for the kb to arrive.
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#452204 - 05/19/18 08:33 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I wish the PA4X would work like that. I would LOVE to have vh only when I hold the pedal down.


That's because you're a "mere amateur"; once you become a "PRO POWER SINGLE" you'll see the world differently smile smile.

chas


PS: BTW, did I mention that I'm a (self-proclaimed) PRO POWER BULLSHIT ARTIST......and I'm not alone smile.


Edited by cgiles (05/19/18 08:36 AM)
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#452208 - 05/19/18 08:50 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Chas, you are in rare form today smile
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#452212 - 05/19/18 09:51 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Fran Carango]
tony mads usa Offline
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Well, he has to make up for being quiet for a couple of days ... wink
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#452213 - 05/19/18 09:55 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: tony mads usa]
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Back to the OP ...
I can see that a pedal you hold down for VH could have its benefits, but having always used a 'press on/press off pedal it doesn't bother me ... plus, the only other pedal I use is the sustain ...
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#452217 - 05/19/18 11:15 AM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Originally Posted By DonM
I wish the PA4X would work like that. I would LOVE to have vh only when I hold the pedal down.


That's because you're a "mere amateur"; once you become a "PRO POWER SINGLE" you'll see the world differently smile smile.

chas


PS: BTW, did I mention that I'm a (self-proclaimed) PRO POWER BULLSHIT ARTIST......and I'm not alone smile.




Also a Power Poster - not afraid to broach any topic especially a sensitive one. smile grin


Edited by Jerryghr (05/19/18 11:16 AM)

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#452220 - 05/19/18 12:00 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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#452229 - 05/19/18 01:43 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: DonM]
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Donny...What will you do if the new pedal doesn’t fix the problem? Or if Korg doesn’t address the issue?

Good luck!

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#452231 - 05/19/18 01:49 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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As my dear grandmother used to say, "He'll have a hissy fit!" smile
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#452235 - 05/19/18 01:56 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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It's not as if he'll keep it that long. Geeze ...
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#452240 - 05/19/18 02:16 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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It works I tried it.
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Edited by organgrinder (05/19/18 02:17 PM)
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#452241 - 05/19/18 02:18 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: organgrinder]
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So your all sayin'. Just funnin' Donny smile


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#452243 - 05/19/18 02:33 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: jingleman]
Dnj Offline
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Drumroll please!!!!

Ladies & Gentleman I am proud to announce & report that the
BOSS FS-5L (latching) Pedal controls Vocal Harmony
ON & OFF on the Pa1000 perfectly as it should !!!




I am a happy Camper once again!..thanx for all the help & concern!!


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#452246 - 05/19/18 02:43 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Dnj]
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Way to go Donny!!!


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#452248 - 05/19/18 03:03 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: jingleman]
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#452253 - 05/19/18 03:34 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Sustain/Vocal Harmony

keys


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#452261 - 05/19/18 06:18 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I told ya, too!

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#452265 - 05/19/18 06:27 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Thank goodness for that . I was about to write an angry letter to korg on behalf of my vocal harmony challenged pro power user brothers .....phew I can sleep peacefully tonight knowing another major disaster was averted .

Some of you pros might have had to rely on your actual singing voice for a while . That’s so amateurish these days . I know the very thought is laughable ....

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#452266 - 05/19/18 07:24 PM Re: Korg PA1000 - huge problem - please weigh in [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I'm glad to see this problem getting the attention it deserves.

chas
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