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#447908 - 03/04/18 01:20 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Terrysutt]
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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E80 still sounds great! I used to have one, lots of good features. The only version I know is this: Georgia On My Mind W & M by Hoagy Carmichael & Stuart Gorrell Recorded by Ray Charles, 1960 (#1) Also by Willie Nelson, 1976
Intro: | C - Edim | Dm7 - G7 | C - Cdim | Dm7 - G7 - G+ |
[C] Georgia, [E7] Georgia, the [Am] whole day [F] through [F#+] Just [C] an old sweet [Edim] song keeps [Em7] Georgia on my [G7] mind, [C] [Dm7] Georgia on my [G7] mind. ____________ [C] Georgia, [E7] Georgia, [Am7] a song of [F] you [Fdim] Comes as [C] sweet and [Edim] clear as [Dm7] moonlight [G7] through the [C] pines. [F, Fm, C, E7] ___________ [Am7] Other [Dm7] arms reach [Am7] out to [F] me, [Am7] other [Dm7] eyes smile [Am7] tender [D7] ly; [Am7] Still in [F] peaceful [C] dreams I [Cdim] see the [Dm7] road leads back to [G7] you. [G+] ___________ [C] Georgia, ]C7] Georgia, [Am7] no peace I [F] find [Fdim] Just an [C] old sweet [Edim] song keeps [Dm7] Georgia [G7] on my [C] mind. [F, Fm, C, E7]
If there is another verse I'd like to know it!
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#448234 - 03/09/18 02:23 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Terrysutt]
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Registered: 02/04/01
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Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
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Here are a few more chords in the Ray Charles rendition you might enjoy and there are more. I just added some to the first Verse. You can also substitute the Edim with an A7b9
[C] Georgia, [E7] Georgia, the [Am] [Gm7]whole day [F] through [F#+] Just [C] an old sweet [Edim] song keeps [Dm7] Georgia on my [G7] mind, [E7] [A7] Georgia on my [Dm7] [G7b9]mind. ____________ [C] Georgia, [E7] Georgia, [Am7] a song of [F] you [Fdim] Comes as [C] sweet and [Edim] clear as [Dm7] moonlight [G7] through the [C] pines. [F, Fm, C, E7] ___________ [Am7] Other [Dm7] arms reach [Am7] out to [F] me, [Am7] other [Dm7] eyes smile [Am7] tender [D7] ly; [Am7] Still in [F] peaceful [C] dreams I [Cdim] see the [Dm7] road leads back to [G7] you. [G+] ___________ [C] Georgia, ]C7] Georgia, [Am7] no peace I [F] find [Fdim] Just an [C] old sweet [Edim] song keeps [Dm7] Georgia [G7] on my [C] mind. [F, Fm, C, E7]
Edited by brickboo (03/09/18 02:26 PM)
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#448263 - 03/10/18 06:15 AM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Terrysutt]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Terry, this is a totally subjective and hopefully, constructive criticism of your arrangement. I would eliminate that horn riff or at least save it for the last chorus at the end of the song to help build a climax (which is how these 'horn stabs' are usually used. using it throughout, chorus, bridge, and verse, nullifies it's effectiveness as a 'big finish' effect, and can actually get almost annoying (to some). Also, I would scale back the volume on the organ and change the (organ) registration between the chorus and bridge.
I'm not fond of that particular style for that tune but that is purely subjective, as I've heard it done as everything from a ballad to a March. I (personally) tend to like the Ray Charles approach although I like Willie's version just about equally (strange I know, but I'm a huge Willie Nelson fan). Just goes to show the versatility of a great tune.
It's really neat, your calling attention to the little known and seldom recorded (or played) verse. I have to admit, I wasn't aware of it. I probably won't add it to my playing of it BUT, musicians should be aware of it (although it might be lost on their audiences). I think this is the kind of information that SHOULD be shared on a music forum - it makes us all a little wiser. Thanks.
chas
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#448270 - 03/10/18 07:02 AM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: brickboo]
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#448377 - 03/11/18 06:27 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Terrysutt]
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Registered: 02/04/01
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Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
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Eddie at about 15 years old when starting my band The Belmonts (A bit before the famous Belmonts) The Pianist Vocalist only knew a few Fats Domino tunes. The bridge to Blueberry Hill was very complicated to me at the time and he was way off.
My Dad bought me an old upright piano from the VFW for $5. It was out of tune and I had to pay $35 to get it tuned. The tuner said he was afraid to tune it to 440 because it would put too much stress on the board so he tuned it a bit flat. HAHA.
I got the School Band Director alone one day and I asked him what was a chord and how to make a chord. He took me over to the piano and asked me if I could play a C scale on the piano? I played it for him and he says play the 1st, 3rd, and 5th note of the scale and you have a chord. I did that and I was amazed.
I asked him so this B note makes a C7? He said yes that is a Maj 7 but that a b7 was used in music composition too and told me to play the C with the b7. He said you got it. So I asked, this is a 9th, this is a 6th so forth and so on.
He told me to play the 3rd and 5th flat and add the 6th and I had a Dim chord. It didn't take long to figure that there really are just 3 Dim chords sort of. He showed me the aug by raising the 5th. Hey, I'm not a Genius, but we did this in 15, maybe 20 minutes. Anyone playing music no matter what instrument, should have a piano type keyboard and play with this for a bit. It's fun and you learn a hell of a lot more much faster.
I got a fake book and saw that there were lots of b9ths, #9ths etc and figured it out as I went along.
Edited by brickboo (03/12/18 10:04 AM)
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#448433 - 03/12/18 01:38 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: tony mads usa]
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As a matter of fact, I left off a great chord before going to the E7 chord in the key of C.
I don't think I'll add chords to anything posted again it seems to confuse some which I do not want to do/.
C'mon, boo ... no holding out ... there are some of us who are trying to LEARN here from the Jazz guys like you, chas, Russ, and others ... so what's the great chord you left out??? Stop teasing them Boo, it's got to be a straight or revoiced B7, at least that's what I always play (or in my case an E7 since I play it in F). In fact, I've had a few uh, disputes with bass players who want to go directly 1 to the 3rd(7). In the end, it's what sounds good to you. chas
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#448438 - 03/12/18 02:07 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Dnj]
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I forgot to mention... I play Georgia in Eb.. My favorite key for most old tunes... And most were in Eb originally. (Old Cape Cod...I wish you love... PS I love you...To each his own.... etc) 'Back in the day" with the band in NY, of course we played a lot of standards when we played weddings and yes, many of them were in Eb ... we had a medley we called the Eb medley - "Once In a While", "These Foolish Things", and "Where or When" ... I always loved playing in the key of Eb ... you play in the key that you sing in there are no rules, ..... no favorites, just what the right key for your vocal in that song is every time,..each song different, take the highest note in the song, hit it comfortably, that's your key, ..every singer/player knows that 101 ... but as Donny says, for vocals you pick the key that suits your range for that song ...
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#448440 - 03/12/18 02:08 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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you play in the key that you sing in there are no rules, ..... no favorites, just what the right key for your vocal in that song is every time,..each song different, take the highest note in the song, hit it comfortably, that's your key, ..every singer/player knows that 101 When all the great tunes were written in the 40's, They were written to sound great instrumentally.... not for some singer key.. The bands got singers that could sing in the designated key.. Look at the big bands...they let a singer have a verse here and there...Vocals were not the big deal... it was music arrangements.. What you are saying today.. our performers just get by to back a vocal presentation.... but could not sell a song instrumentally.. I rather listen to a great player with average vocals than a great vocalist that can't play to save their life (always backing tracks).. Now when you have someone that can do both... that is another story..
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#448491 - 03/12/18 09:04 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Terrysutt]
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Registered: 02/04/01
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Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
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Fran, Chas, Tony, Donnie, all great comments, and correct. You need to keep in mind that I'm speaking as a Sax Player, not a vocalist. I sing in what key that I'm able. I do vocals 80 to 90 percent in the original key. I do play them in the original key and just transpose if necessary.
A Sax Player has to play in the original key. If I heard a Sax Man play "Body and Soul" in C I'd have to think he can't play in Db. That is one of the hardest keys for Sax. However after you work with it for some time, it sounds best in that key. The bridge changes to the key of D and then the second half of the bridge changes to C which is really easy to play in and allows a bunch of great sounding licks an experienced sax man can play at the turn around to get back to Db for the last verse.
One Sax Guy who is talking chord theory with a zillion vocalist is going to cause confusion and more so with many vocalists who aren't musicians at all and work with midi files or Karaoke. No offense meant whatsoever to entertainers. I'm just stating a normal problem in this forum setting, OK?
Chas, tomorrow I'll knock the cobwebs off the arranger and find that chord in Georgia. I do it in G and it is a Gb something or other which corresponds with the E7 in your key of F just as a passing chord to the A7 [A9]. It's so subtle but when you do it and hear Ray's version it is just really sweet huh? When you play tunes like this with folks who know and then you hear it played with half of the changes left out, it really leaves much to be desired and sounds annoying eh, Chas?
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#448492 - 03/12/18 09:26 PM
Re: Georgia on my mind
[Re: Terrysutt]
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Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
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Donnie, I wish you were out here a few years back when I was playing kinda of regular. At that time, I tried three different recorders and just couldn't get the balance or enough good sounding mics set up to sound good with the sax.If I set the mics for the high end the low end was weak. If I set the mic for the low end, the high end was weak. I had pros tell me that setting up to record Sax was one of the hardest instruments to record because every note did not go just through the bell like a trombone, trumpet and other wind instruments. Sound comes out everywhere on a Tenor sax because of it being longer than an alto may be a problem. I just do not know. So, I gave up/ I just recorded some things that were passable vocals while playing the arranger on a sony mini recorder that was a bit easier and sounded better, but man recording sax in my little office was almost funny. I just couldn't figure my 8 track Tascam Recorder out to do a good job. It was taking to much time and I rather practice at the time. Maybe 10 years ago.
Since my Son passed away in September 2014 of Esophageal Cancer, I just lost every ounce of my ambition to play anymore buddy.
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