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#440359 - 11/04/17 08:40 AM Great sax possible on keyboard?
Guardman2001 Offline
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Hi all. I have a Sax instrumental original song that I asked a professional backing tracks producer about getting him to do a mix for me. He said he couldn't do a believable sax on a keyboard. (it would always sound fake). I worked w/ a midi sequence guy a few years ago and it seems to me he could produce a great sax using his keyboard. (He moved away) Whadaya think???

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#440361 - 11/04/17 10:05 AM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Guardman2001]
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It all depends upon the player. I have heard some incredible sax performances come from an arranger keyboard. I have also heard some really bad ones as well. It's not the fault of the keyboard, but instead, the player.

Good luck,

Gary cool
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#440369 - 11/04/17 01:22 PM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Guardman2001]
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A few sax tips:
You need to emulate breaks in the breathing, and subtle pitch changes to get closer to a sax technique. Never play more than one note at a time, stay in the correct range of the instrument and USE YOUR DYNAMICS ... wind players are always changing up the wind pressure. Avoid overbending (pitch). Most bends are less than a 1/2 step, done with the lip.
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#440404 - 11/05/17 09:36 AM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I heared Peter Baartmans on the Genos yesterday

There was an incredible sax performance from him...
Closed my eyes and tought i was on the northsee jazz festival
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#440768 - 11/11/17 03:23 PM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Guardman2001]
keybplayer Offline
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I heard the same video and yes Peter Baartmans really knows how to make a good Sax improvisation on the Genos. Having said that the real goal at least in my opinion is that Yamaha and other keyboard manufacturers would create a Sax sound that more closely resembles a real Saxophone. They are getting better at it but they still have a ways to go if you ask me. To put it in perspective here is an mp3 file of a real Saxophone being played that shows you what keyboards are still missing in the way of authenticity. Enjoy..

All the best,

Mike

PS: Don't get me wrong. If the keyboard Sax is played skillfully like Peter Baartmans does then it makes the sound of the keyboard Sax itself of less importance. But again the goal is authenticity and if keyboard manufacturers could achieve that goal (like the mp3 file I posted) then that's saying something and would be a real delight for professional musicians of all stripes. Until then we'll have to settle for what they give us or if you are unhappy with certain voices you can always hold on to your wallet until something more satisfying comes along. cool


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#440807 - 11/12/17 10:25 AM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Guardman2001]
leeboy Offline
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Yes...at the 1 hour 2 minute spot...listen to Peter.
And at 1 hour 7 min too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QS_1AfHptw


Edited by leeboy (11/12/17 04:17 PM)
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#440813 - 11/12/17 01:23 PM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Guardman2001]
Bernie9 Offline
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Mike
That was a tasty sax. Thanks
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#440814 - 11/12/17 02:22 PM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: Bernie9]
hbinfo2001 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Hi,Check this demo,the guy use to work for Ketron
Is the Yamaya Genos better than the SD9
For me the sax from Audya is best sound
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#440815 - 11/12/17 02:23 PM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: hbinfo2001]
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#440816 - 11/12/17 02:48 PM Re: Great sax possible on keyboard? [Re: hbinfo2001]
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