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#426237 - 09/16/16 10:04 PM Carvin TRC collum array
Mr. G Offline
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Loc: Monroe, Mi. USA
Does anyone have or had any experience with the Carvin TRC line array. An 18 inch woofer and 18 3 inch mid high speakers looks like it should sound great. plus lots of power.

Be Blessed, Mr. G


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#426241 - 09/17/16 06:42 AM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
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#426242 - 09/17/16 07:19 AM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Wish they would make a smaller version with a 10" sub. Two of those would fit a lot of situations and I bet they would be priced right. I think Carvin is a great company and overlooked.
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#426246 - 09/17/16 08:51 AM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Bill Lewis]
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sigh ... they all criticize the Bose systems, but they all wanna be like them. I'll stick with the original. Let the comments fly.
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#426247 - 09/17/16 09:07 AM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
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#426249 - 09/17/16 09:35 AM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
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Registered: 11/12/08
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I didn't see anyone criticize Bose. Coping is the sincest form of flattery. Bose did popuarlize the column array and everyone is coping it. It does have its advantages. To me an all in one system with no speaker stands. IMHO Bose is overpriced and I've heard a number of acts with them and they never really stand out to me. The sound is there and its OK but not stellar. One of the most populat bands here "Target" uses 3 L1's with matching subs and they are loud but not great. Just saw another popular band here called the "Headliners" and they had a traditional PA with subs. Much better sound. Better lows and crisper highs. Again IMHO. Whatever anyone feels is the best for them.
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#426256 - 09/17/16 11:08 AM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
The biggest problem with any of the new sound systems is the user. In many instances, the person that purchases the sound system figures it's a plug and play system, and that no additional adjustments are necessary to sound great.

When Bose first introduced the Bose L1 PAS system, to my knowledge, Uncle Dave was the first guy in the mid Atlantic region to purchase one. Dave meticulously worked with that system for many, many hours before I got to hear him perform with it in an Italian Restaurant in Philadelphia. I think he was still playing a Korg back then, and the sound was awesome throughout the entire venue. I purchased an identical system the following day.

When the system arrived, I plugged it in, hooked up my keyboard, and the sound was less than stellar. I then called Dave and asked which settings he used for the EQ presets, which made a huge difference. Later that week, Bose uploaded an entirely new set of EQs that could be downloaded and installed, and wallah! After many hours of fiddling around with both the Bose and the EQs on my Yamaha arranger keyboard, I had achieved the sound I was ultimately hoping to get.

There was an immediate response from my regular audiences, both young and old, and I couldn't count the number of people that came up and asked "Where are your speakers?" They was so accustomed to seeing a pair of Barbetta Sona 32SC's on poles that they thought I had hidden the speakers somewhere out of sight.

Looking at the link that DNJ posted for the Carvin systems, the model numbers are a bit misleading. When I saw 10,000W and thought - WOW! A 10,000-watt amp. Then I did the math and there isn't a place where any of us perform that has a circuit breaker that could handle a 10,000-watt system. Even if it were peak power, it would still draw about 40 amperes, twice what most circuit breakers can handle.

Here are the real numbers:



TRx3903 Column Speaker Specs:

- System Type: CDD Column Array
- Frequency Response: 140 Hz 18 kHz (-10DB), 160 Hz 16 kHz (-3 dB)
- Coverage Pattern: 120H x 10V single cabinet
- Crossover: None
- Required Crossover Freq.: 160 Hz 24DB/oct
- Power (full range): 180w continous /360w program /720w peak
- Recommended Amplifier Power: 200w - 400w
- Sensitivity: 100dB (1w/ 1m); 97dB (1w/2m)
- Maximum SPL: 128dB Peak
- Driver: 9 x 3-inch drivers
- Nominal Impedance: 8 ohms
- Enclosure: 11-Ply Russian Baltic Birch
- Suspension/Mounting: 8 captive 3/8in-16 nut fly points; Two 1-3/8 pole mount cups (top and bottom)
- Finish: Black DuraTec
- Grill: Black powder coated steel Acoustically Transparent Foam Backing
- Connectors: Two 4-pin twist lock connectors
- Dimensions: 31.5" high x 5" wide x 5.25" deep (800 mm x 127 mm x 134 mm)
- Weight: 21 pounds (9.5 kg)
- Made in San Diego, California

TRx3018A Powered Subwoofer Specs:

System Type: Active 2500W, X-Drive DSP controlled, 18 Inch Bass reflex
Freq. Response: 32 Hz 1.5K Hz (-10DB), 38 Hz 1K Hz (-3 dB)
Coverage Pattern: Omni - Cardioid in 8x Arrays
Crossover: Active DSP design
Crossover Freq.: Preset or Adjustable frequency at 24dB/oct.
Input Sensitivity: Variable 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, and 2.0 Vrms settings
Power: Internal Sub 1500W 20mS pulsed, External amplifier output 1000W
Maximum SPL: 131 dB Peak
Driver: 18 Inch, 4 Inch Voice Coil
Enclosure: 13 ply Russian Baltic Birch
Suspension: Three 1-3/8 pole mount cups
Finish: Black DuraTec
Grill: Black Powder-Coated Steel, Acoustically Transparent Foam Backing
Connectors: One XLR male and One XLR female, Terminal block for remote volume/ mute.
Dimensions: 23.5" high x 23.5" wide x 23.5" deep (597 mm x 597 mm x 597 mm)
Net Weight: 86 lbs (39 kg)
Made in USA

Oh, and be prepared to write a huge check: The list price is $9,099.00 while the sale price is $6,499.00.

Now that I'm retired, I look back at all the sound systems I'd purchased over the past 60 years. At the time, each and every one of them sounded fantastic, and as time wore on, each and every one of them seemed to have some faults. Now, the newer systems, as usual, sound so much cleaner and crisper than those old systems. And, I would expect that. Additionally, the newer systems are far lighter in weight, and prices have actually come down when you consider what you get. I remember a monster Peavey System that I lugged around to the VHFs, Legions and animal clubs for about 5 years. The powered mixer weighed nearly 75 pounds, the speakers tipped the scales at 105-pounds each and I needed a refrigerator dolly to unload the gear from the van and take it into the clubs, which took nearly an hour to set up. Setup time with the new systems is less than 10 minutes for the most part and you don't end up with a hernia from lifting the gear.

All the best,

Gary cool
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#426257 - 09/17/16 12:08 PM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
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Speaking of Peavy, I still have one of my KB-3 speakers. I lugged those two 100 lb beasts all over the place in the early eighties.
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#426258 - 09/17/16 12:12 PM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: Mr. G]
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I remember them well, Bernie. I had a pair of SP5Gs, KB300, SP2gs, etc... The cabinets were all made of 1/2-inch thick composition board, which is really heavy stuff.

Gary cool
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#426265 - 09/17/16 04:37 PM Re: Carvin TRC collum array [Re: travlin'easy]
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 6406
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Been using Carvin since the early 60's...amps, instruments. My favorite double necks are Carvins.

All three small sound systems are Carvins, including one 200 Watt 6 channel mono that has been in constant use 5-6 nights a week outside for over 15 years. Toured the factory in 1963 in Covina, California.


GREAT STUFF!

Joe Walsh and other members of the Eagles ply Carvin.


R.


Russ


Edited by captain Russ (09/17/16 04:43 PM)

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