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#372588 - 10/03/13 10:41 AM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
ianmcnll Offline
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I'm pleased that Yamaha was wise enough to give players a choice...61 or 76 keys.

Ian
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#372589 - 10/03/13 11:03 AM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
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I think for Yamaha to have the confidence in releasing a 76 Tyros for the first time I am sensing this model is going to be a phenomenal & irresistible instrument and possibly quite a significant difference in performance if, for example, all styles are Audio, and if backwards compatibility is preserved and plays everything better then we're looking at something special here.

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#372590 - 10/03/13 11:15 AM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: ianmcnll]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
I'm pleased that Yamaha was wise enough to give players a choice...61 or 76 keys.

Ian


Smart move by Yamaha to wait while its flagship T4 still rakes in the dough worldwide.., cool2 ...then wait for KORG to reveal it's hand with the PAx series upgrade units, listen to feedback, and then raise them a TYROS 5 with 61 & 76 keys and I'll bet a whole lot more feature wise to sweeten the pot!! clap


Edited by Dnj (10/03/13 11:17 AM)

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#372596 - 10/03/13 12:06 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
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Donny,

Using this logic is very smart that Korg new flagship is only coming out next year, once the new Tyros is revealed... and so on.
Truth is they all simply release a new arranger when it's ready and market asks for it.
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#372599 - 10/03/13 12:22 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
All the manufacturers are pretty much on their own release cycle. As long as it takes to design, voice and style these things, I doubt anyone can respond quickly to new features that come out on other arrangers.

Don't forget... this is a YAMAHA we are talking about. Baby steps..!

It's pretty much a gimme we'll see the audio drums and multipad stuff from the S950. 6 Variations? It will be a cold day in Hell! Touch screen? Possibly... CVP's have already got one. But don't forget who we are talking about.

Baby steps! rolleyes
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#372600 - 10/03/13 12:23 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
DannyUK Offline
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Registered: 12/09/99
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Wow 6 variations! Never thought of that before!!

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#372603 - 10/03/13 12:48 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
Been asking for this for years... actually, a LOT more interested in more fills to join up however many Variations you DO get. A 4 Variation arranger needs 16 different fills to cover every possible transition (including Fill-to-Same). Even today's 6 fill arrangers fall far short in providing smooth transitions from any Variation TO any Variation.

Up that to 6 Variations, and the need for radically more fills goes up.

One thing I'd REALLY like to see (only Ketron has it at the moment, I believe) is a different Break/Fill for every Variation... The break/fill that works for Var4 (the busy one) is wildly inappropriate for the Var1.

Something else that might FINALLY make the Tyros sampler actually more than a little used gimmick (and an expensive one at that) is to open it up to multisample import... Akai especially. It's an underused part of the OS while Yamaha brickwall it off from the largest libraries out there. It is WAY past time that Yamaha do Akai import...

But it's Yamaha... is anyone expecting anything ground-breaking? It has taken them 13 YEARS just to try the 76 market again!
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#372604 - 10/03/13 12:54 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: jimlaing]
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Registered: 09/30/10
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I would like to see a outputs for drums and bass so on live and studio. Work I can send those to the house to get more of a band mix and guitar and solo inst sis well this would be awesome. For recording in real time and allow a better live mix
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#372606 - 10/03/13 01:00 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
Dnj Offline
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Watch what you wish for,...with all these wish list things before long the two factions synth & arranger will become closer and eventually become "AS ON" entity!!

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#372608 - 10/03/13 01:04 PM Re: Tyros 5-61 & 5-76 Registered in Canada [Re: abacus]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14182
Loc: NW Florida
Your main problem with auxiliary outs is that, unless the effects section is doubled or tripled in its entirety, the aux outs have to be bone dry. The main reverb and chorus sends all go to the same section, so there's no way to separate the reverb return to the drums from the reverb return to the piano, for instance.

However, I think it would be wonderful if an aux out (and the internal speakers) carried a separate mix of the entire output. Even something as simple as an increase in the balance of the Keyboard Parts to the Style/SMF/MP3 Parts would help us hear ourselves better without swamping the backing, which is something I tend to hear in 90% of all user demos. If we could up the 'me' in the mix without it being reflected in the main outs, that would be really useful!
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