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#254733 - 01/27/09 03:49 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
Diki Offline


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If only they had offered more than the paltry 64MB of sample RAM and computer-like speeds to load it up, this wouldn't be an issue. 512MB, or even a GB (like Yamaha do) and high speed loading (which Yamaha DON'T) and Akai import (which Yamaha ALSO ignore) would go a long way towards making any soundset shortcomings moot...
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#254734 - 01/27/09 04:57 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
mc Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
Mike,

i think the ONE BIG thing the AUDYA has over its competition is its LIVE sound

don't know if you've ever played a Ketron X or SD through a good PA, but it sounds..."LIVE", more so than any other arranger, it sounds like a real band.

i own a G-70, and use BOTH at my performances every weekend...
and even though the G-70 has better sounds, i find myself using the Ketron more,
it has a "punchier", live, in your face sound, it has that "natural" sound

playing the same song on Ketron and Roland, i get more people on the dance floor with Ketron,
like i said, it just sounds fuller,

i think this is mainly because of the drums, and styles, and not because of the (right) solo voices,even though Ketron has a few good ones.

i think what the AUDYA will bring to the table is an EVEN MORE "live" sound as it has lots of guitar and bass loops.

i do wish the sounds of the AUDYA were more on par with the Yamahas MOTIF, or Rolands Fantom.
i was hoping for LOTS of new sounds, a bank of cutting-edge modern sounds.
who knows, maybe it's upgradable, or will be at some point

i think the ULTIMATE arranger would be a combination of the AUDYA and the T3, the styles/loops/drums being from AUDYA, and the solo voices from the T3

from what i've heard, Ketron has some new voices, but MOSTLY has lots of the same "old" tweaked to sound a bit better.

thats my $.02


Lee,
Also, I have found that the Ketron's styles adapt better to "our" style of music than Roland, Korg and Yamaha. (Malhao, Marcha e fado/fado cancao). Also since we also play a mixture of latin music, I haven't found any keyboard company that can match Ketron's latin section. That's why most of our musician competitors/colleagues use ketron over any other board out on the market.

[This message has been edited by mc (edited 01-27-2009).]
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#254735 - 01/27/09 05:04 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
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What do the latin music experts think of the styles in the GW-8L?

I know it's a much less expensive product than the Ketron's, but how are the styles for authenticity?
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#254736 - 01/27/09 05:10 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
What do the latin music experts think of the styles in the GW-8L?

I know it's a much less expensive product than the Ketron's, but how are the styles for authenticity?


Don't know yet, I haven't found a store that carries it, I'm hoping that Mr.Sound has one when I go check out the Audya. I really want to try it, but Samash or GC doesn't have it, only special orders.
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#254737 - 01/27/09 05:48 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
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Better not be drunk or on drugs when you call them up to see if they have one in stock!
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#254738 - 01/27/09 05:51 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
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I know this doesn't help but I will have one on display when it is released, and you will be able to play it side by side with a T3, and a PA2xpro

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#254739 - 01/27/09 06:53 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
mc Offline
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Originally posted by keybplayer:
Let's see... One Audya for AJ and one in Portugal. So that's two Audya's as we speak (maybe one or two more at Ketron Italy Headquarters in Ancona) . AJ won't let anybody play his Audya so I guess we can nix his, right? So it looks like worldwide there is a total of "one" Audya being demoed in Portugal by people who don't seem to be Ketron employees. Although we don't know that for certain do we...

All the best, Mike



There is no conspiracy theory in portugal about the Audya. The as per the website the FCMUSICA is a store that received a audya in late December and demoed it to customers and it also states that they started selling them as of 1/15/09 to customers that were waiting for them, I can only assume that they were waiting for additional units from 12/20 through 1/15.

The also say that some of the videos are the Sd1 styles that they demoed.

From what I can tell the Audya has now been released in europe, I guess the states will get theirs soon enough.
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#254740 - 01/27/09 07:34 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
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Registered: 04/12/07
Posts: 23
Loc: Portugal
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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
leezone,

After watching and listening to the new videos, I see that they were using the USER styles (on HD) which are simply the SD1 and SD5 styles, and not the ROM styles. The AUDYA can play styles directly from H.disk and so they ship with the SD1 & SD5 styles as bonus. However, these bonus styles are an addition to the over 300 AUDIO styles found in AUDYA's ROM (which were not clearly demonstrated in these examples). We should have some more videos up with AUDIO styles soon.

AJ


Hello.

Just a small correction to AJ.

In the new videos we produce in Portugal , we use 99% of the new audio Rom Styles.

Only KIZOMBA african styles are old SD1 Style but with small corrections on the AUDIO STYLE MODELING.

If you see in my blog , The musician RICARDO ALCAIDE plays 100% Rom Styles ,
MARCO MARUJO plays 100% Rom Styles
JORGE MIGUEL only use the KIZOMBA user Style in the 3rd video , all the rest are Rom Styles.
PEDRO TEIXEIRA plays 100% Rom Styles.

In the vocal we use the LARGE HALL reverb and in almost all videos , the VOICETRON in the preset DUET UP with low cut equalization.
Only the last video of PEDRO TEIXEIRA use the quartet , the Quintet and the fixed interval MALE FEMALE preset in the piano bossa at the end of the video.

The audio of the videos on the YOUTUBE are not good quality, i prefer VIMEO quality but they limit to 500MB uploads per week.

For now its impossible to produce USER AUDIO STYLE , and i ask AJ , if he wants to answer me , when Ketron thinks to deliver the Software to create the User Audio Styles?

We ask every day to Italy for the software with no answer. Only we are working , you must wait....

The Rom Styles are OK to hotel players , but for Portuguese keyboard musicians are not OK , because we need to develop our Tradicional Styles , Brazilian Styles like FORRO , VANEIRÃO , And the African Styles , KIZOMBA , SEMBA , MORNA , KUDURO , ZOUK , COLADERA , FUNANA.

And , in my opinion , is not a good politic from Ketron , sell the Keyboards and tell the costumers to wait some weeks for the software to produce the Styles from the zero , Audio or midi styles.

Also I Think it`s a Big mistake ketron dont include in the OS of the Keyboard the PATTERn EDIT funtion , some litle corrections on the midi tracks of the style could be easy correct on the pattern edit.

The AUDYA is a fantastic keyboard , the sounds and the arranger are fantastic , when we play with the rom style , we think we are playing in a really live band.
In Portugal all Keyb. Players are loving the quality of the keyboard.

For our traditional music this Latin "flavour" is much better that the Japonese models.
No , i`m not telling that Ketron AUDYA is better than Korg or yamaha or Roland models.
Is Very diferent , and for Portuguese market will be a better choice.

I read here that KETRON dont go to the NAMM 2009 , in my opinion , is a mistake , KETRON is one of the best Keyboard builders , and must be present in all the big events.
I Hope they will be present at the Frankfurt Musikmesse 2009...

Best Regards from PORTUGAL.
Sorry for my bad english

FC www.ketronaudya.wordpress.com

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#254741 - 01/27/09 08:23 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
Ketron_AJ Offline
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fc_xander

Thanks for the correction. I believe Youtube doesn't do justice to most high-end Arranger keyboards.

The software for editing/creating Patterns will become available soon. Remember too that since the machine has an Open Architecture Operating System, updates to include other features are just around the corner.

We are also working on many of the Latin/African styles people have been asking for especially the Zouk (send me an email to axa130@hotmail.com with the subject 'AFRICAN STYLES' and I will send you a taste of what is to come".

So much work, so little time ... but we'll get there sooner than later.

Thanks,

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#254742 - 01/27/09 10:32 PM Re: Lots More AUDYA Demos...Check 'em out !!!
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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no disrespect AJ but,

someone mentioned here that you would/should know the AUDYA inside and out, more than most people...

you stated that most of those styles were NOT the new ROM AUDYA styles, but rather, the "old" converted SD styles

my question is:
how can you NOT tell that 99% of the rhythms/styles in all those "Portugal" videos were actually the ROM styles and NOT the SD styles as you mentioned?

and sorry, bad sound "you-tubish" quality should not be an excuse for not recognizing the styles which reside in the AUDYA, the keyboard which you've been playing/developing/demoing for quite some time now...???

still looking forward to hearing the AUDYA in NY...

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