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#250129 - 12/03/08 06:35 AM
is this T2 or T3 but piano is nice
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#250131 - 12/03/08 03:49 PM
Re: is this T2 or T3 but piano is nice
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: CA
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The original Tyros has the same exact Live! Grand Piano sample that the T2 does. OTOH, the Tyros3 has a newly sampled Live! Concert Grand voice which apparently, from what I've heard anyway, is a step backward "not forward" as far as improving the ac.piano sound goes on the Tyros series. Another comment made from one of our members who owns a T3 is the all new Drums on the T3 are apparently even more atrocious (plastic sounding) than the T2's drums are, if that's possible.. Strike TWO! One more strike and the Tyros"4" will likely strike 'out' in the hearts and minds of many past and current loyal Yamaha brand owners. >> If Yamaha continues to forego on listening to the wants and wishes of arranger keyboardists (and Yamaha arranger keyboard owners in particular) you can look forward to more and more arranger keyboardists jumping ship from Yamaha and swimming to warmer, friendlier waters i.e. = those manufacturers who truly have the consumers best interest at heart and not just their own bottom line. Those manufacturers are the ones who indeed WILL and DO listen to their customers and provide keyboard products that consumers and customers alike ask and even yearn for. Like Korg for one. That said, Yamaha DOES have a relatively good support staff and seem to also be quick at repairing any hardware issues on the keyboards themselves. But as far as Yamaha listening to their customer's (or potential customer's) wishes and wants, in what they, as the consumer, would like to have {and need} in high-end arranger keyboard product(s) - you're better off talking to a rock. >> At least the rock won't come back and retort that its keyboards are made only for the sole purpose of serving a particular niche market that, first and foremost, maximizes and serves their "own" particular financial interests as a company and has their "own" company bottom line at heart - and nothing else. Sad... but that's how I see it. In other words, the rock won't keep spewing out reasons why it does what it does and why it has no 'apparent' intention of changing - customers and consumers in general be damned... Not a lovely thought eh? That's apparently the way Yamaha likes it though. Else, they would start changing their business practices and start providing keyboards with the "consumers" best interest at heart, and NOT only and always just their own bottom line. Merry Christmas! Mike
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#250135 - 12/03/08 04:30 PM
Re: is this T2 or T3 but piano is nice
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
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Honestly I've always wondered why Yamaha didn't put more into their piano samples on both their upper end arrangers and pro workstations. This is a company that makes very nice sounding acoustic pianos... They clearly have a great sounding acoustic grand.., it's surprising to always read comments about the pianos lacking on their keyboards. Maybe it's me, but Yammie at times seems to be a bit stingy in that they want you to buy their Clavs or CVP's if you want a good acoustic piano sound.
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#250138 - 12/04/08 09:10 AM
Re: is this T2 or T3 but piano is nice
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Often minute adjustments to the filter section will also clean up a piano sound. It can mellow out a piano that's too bright, or brighten up a piano that's too mellow. Even EQ'ing will clean it up.
I've owned numerous keyboards that had an acoustic piano I wasn't too fond of, but every keyboard I've owned (that at least had basic synth parameters) I was able to tweek one to my liking. It's not hard.., you just have to be willing to make the adjustments.
IMO..., if you're complaining about the "out of box" piano sound and haven't even bothered to tweek it.., well then it's your loss. All these arrangers have decent pianos today. These keyboard companies have to cater to a wide range of musical tastes and likes. If that makers piano isn't to your liking.., then edit the thing.
Too often people complain about this sound that sound on their arrangers not sounding stellar out of the box.., yet so often the synth parameters on these arrangers are overlooked. 95% of the time the fix to that perfect sound is right under your fingers. It will however require you to explore your keyboard a little deeper.
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