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#240000 - 08/14/08 03:38 PM ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Ah, peace and quiet, love and happiness........ borrrrrrring. Seems like the only thing that binds us together and gets our juices flowing is controversy. Oh well, guess I'll just go back and re-read the latest update on the Wersi, or whether lip-syncing to your cd player is really cheating? oh really. Well how about your mp3 player? Or whether the Tyros2 drums sound 'live' enough......uh, well it IS a keyboard, not a drumset. BTW, I have it on good authority that the new T3 will have 73 keys, thereby pizzing off both Ian AND Diki. Oh, Oh, the wifey just called me to dinner or I could have gone on for another hour. bye.

chas
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#240001 - 08/14/08 05:33 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
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73?


3 too few........................


(Let the controversy begin!)
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#240002 - 08/14/08 05:44 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Yep, this is what happens when the mfgs don't supply us with the next board we can rip apart, one way or another. Sure would be a boring life without those terrible, non-caring arranger makers

The PA800 rules - I'm content!

Now await my Mackie MR8s.
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#240003 - 08/14/08 07:03 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
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73...? Sounds just about perfect for that Rhodes part..

In lieu of any arrangers to rip apart, how about each other's playing..? Oops! I forgot... Nothing much to listen to, anyway

How about politics? Hard to find anything to criticize in our current administration, is there? Especially since there really is only one party in Washington, the 'Republicrats' who only take care of the top 10%, anyway...

Or, how about Russia? Tough to criticize a nation for going into another country to replace a government unilaterally, after we did it ourselves, isn't it?

Might as well talk about Brett Favre...
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#240004 - 08/15/08 03:32 AM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
cgiles Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:


Might as well talk about Brett Favre...


Nope, we can't talk about the elderly......"they is us".

chas
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#240005 - 08/15/08 09:04 AM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Hey, CHARLEY! Why don't you get rid of that piece of crap C-1 and play a real instrument, like any arranger Yamaha makes? Don't need any sidemen, anyway. More dough for you! Then, buy a home surround system to play it through. And only play nursing homes.

Oh, yea, switch to an all country format and buy your chicken hats in bulk! Forget all that jazz crap! Only druggies and losers want to hear that stuff!

How's that?
(LOL!)

"Redneck" Russ

[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 08-15-2008).]

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#240006 - 08/15/08 10:33 AM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
cgiles Offline
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On a serious note, Russ, I stopped by Guitar Center for my latest attempt to find the perfect substitute for the 'Leslie' sound in an unpowered speaker (pr). Once again I was disappointed but decided to take home a pair of Harbinger HX152's (dual 15's w/horn). Only 399.00 and stood up well to everything else in it's class (JBL and Peavy) except the Yamaha which sounded better, cost more, was considerably heavier, and had a much higher power requirement. As for the Harbingers, I liked the weight, the sound, and the built-in wheels. I still have to hook it up to my Mackie 808S for a final decision. I have 30 days to make up my mind about keeping it. I'll let you know. I wasn't able to find the new Roland SA-1000 and the MotionSound and Leslie was just too heavy and too cumbersome (not cheap either, when you're talking a pair of 'em). I'll be dusting off the Traynor K4 for an A/B (not a fair comparison, granted).

chas
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#240007 - 08/15/08 12:21 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Chas, I'd take another look at the little Motion Sound "Top Box". It's just the top horns and is a little over $700.00. I've got an older version and it works GREAT. It's about 20 lbs, has real horns and simulated bottom rotor. It would be the perfect complement to the Traynor.

I have to make a quick trip to Atlanta to visit one of my clients, and I would be glad to bring my old unit for you to try. I don't need it for the next few weeks...playing either house jobs on the B or guitar (me), upright (my son) and drums (my grandson).

It's very old, but would give you an idea about how the new one, which, I would assume is better, works.

I'll even UPS this one to you next week to try if my trip does not materialize soon. I'm not trying to sell the unit, but this would give you an idea about how it works. I think Diki has one of these little things...maby not the same model, but something close. Check out the websites of any Motion Sound dealer (Sweetwater is one) to look at the specs of the current model. Nothing like real doppler, at least when you're close to the source.

Sure would make "them country tunes" sound COOL!


R.

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#240008 - 08/15/08 01:51 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
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#240009 - 08/15/08 01:55 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Quote:
Originally posted by captain Russ:
Chas, I'd take another look at the little Motion Sound "Top Box". It's just the top horns and is a little over $700.00. I've got an older version and it works GREAT. It's about 20 lbs, has real horns and simulated bottom rotor. It would be the perfect complement to the Traynor.

I have to make a quick trip to Atlanta to visit one of my clients, and I would be glad to bring my old unit for you to try. I don't need it for the next few weeks...playing either house jobs on the B or guitar (me), upright (my son) and drums (my grandson).

It's very old, but would give you an idea about how the new one, which, I would assume is better, works.

I'll even UPS this one to you next week to try if my trip does not materialize soon. I'm not trying to sell the unit, but this would give you an idea about how it works. I think Diki has one of these little things...maby not the same model, but something close. Check out the websites of any Motion Sound dealer (Sweetwater is one) to look at the specs of the current model. Nothing like real doppler, at least when you're close to the source.

Sure would make "them country tunes" sound COOL!


R.

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#240010 - 08/15/08 02:36 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
cgiles Offline
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That's really thoughtful and generous of you Russ, but to tell you the truth, I pretty much ruled out the little MotionSound. The reason was: one more thing to hook up and it didn't represent a TOTAL solution. The other thing is that I feel as though I can live with the on-board sim if played through a good speaker system. I think the problem I'm having with the sound is not so much the speaker but the absence of a tube in the amp (warmth). You just can't get that 'down in the dirt' growl without a tube and some wood in the cabinet (but I won't stop trying ).

If you do make it to Atlanta, though, let me know. We usually play Friday or Saturday, but rarely both unless a holiday week-end. Our guitar player is insane (as in 'really good'). It's always good to have one great player to 'carry' the other slugs in the group .

chas
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#240011 - 08/16/08 01:15 PM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
captain Russ Offline
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Chas, I'm a tube freak also. I use an ART tube pre-amp to get that sound. they're relatively inexpensive and work great. I use mine mainly for guitar into a PA. Also have a lot of luck with a SansAmp. Give them a try.

I'll get to Atlanta, but it will be during the week. Only week-end i take off is Friday night during the Summer NAMM.


Be well!


Russ

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#318041 - 03/02/11 01:17 AM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz [Re: cgiles]
Nigel Offline
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Originally Posted By: cgiles
I think the problem I'm having with the sound is not so much the speaker but the absence of a tube in the amp (warmth). You just can't get that 'down in the dirt' growl without a tube and some wood in the cabinet
chas


But I am guessing if you use a Traynor K4 you are running it through the tube preamp. I always use my K4 in tube preamp mode. That was one of the K4 features that convinced me to buy one. I pretty much always use the tube preamp as I think it sounds more agressive playing with a rock band.


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#318045 - 03/02/11 06:09 AM Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz [Re: cgiles]
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I'll be in Peachtree City and can jump on MARTA and check ya out on a Friday or Saturday


Anyway..what do you really think of the Governor of Wisconsin?
instigating controversy
rolleyes
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