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#237249 - 07/30/08 05:00 AM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4643
Loc: West Virginia
Guys..., seriously, it's no secret that the keyboard makers have been (using outboard gear) to record the internal demos for years. What people seem to be missing is what one of the main reasons the demo button is there for.., it's there for the "salesman". Many music stores don't have experienced staff to demo keyboards. So they just press the demo button.

This is NO SECRET..., they've been doing this for years now. Yes, Ensnareyou is right about some sounds not even residing in the presets. Hell, my old PSR-550 had a more modern sound that used a (tweeked version) of the hip hop kit, BUT that tweeked version wasn't available as a preset kit to just choose from as a normal voice. It was only available by going into edit mode for that style-and there were some limitations too. This wasn't something you read about in the manual either.

**If you really think the makers are recording these awesome demos using the onboard patches by triggering them manually from the keybed itself---then boy do I have some nice ocean-front property to sell ya here in West Virginia** It's not just arrangers.., it's also done with the major workstations too.

Why do all these topics have to turn into peeing contests? Why can't you guys just accept that many of you have different opinions regarding keyboards.., and WHY do so many of you go ON and ON about one of the most SUBJECTIVE parts about a keyboard (THE SOUNDS). You want to argue, then argue about FEATURES.., why rip into the sound quality when cleary EVERYONE'S ear is going to be different. These constant peeing contests really make this a nasty place at times, and the topics just go to hell because of them.

**Also think about this... How often have you read about "real musicians" being used to record those great styles on your arrangers. Do you think they're all sitting in a circle, passing the keyboard around to each other? They're using outboard gear to trigger the internal samples. If they do this with the styles..., they're clearly doing it with the onboard demos too**


[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 07-30-2008).]
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#237250 - 07/30/08 10:59 AM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
Diki Offline
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 12861
Loc: NW Florida
Bill... start your own forum if you want to act as moderator.

In the meantime, just as you feel the right to chime in on any topic with your Wersi chat, you can expect other members to do exactly the same...

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#237251 - 07/30/08 11:43 AM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 4904
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi Diki

If it was a Wersi chat I would agree, but it is a Tyros 3 chat, and apart from replying to a statement by yourself (Which had no connection to the topic) where in this thread did I even mention Wersi.

Bill
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#237252 - 07/30/08 12:34 PM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
Diki Offline
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 12861
Loc: NW Florida
Do you really need me to go through all the other threads that WEREN'T about Wersi, and detail where you chimed in with Wersi opinion or fact?

Why not sit back, relax, and wait for Nigel to decide whether or not to enforce strict 'on topic' behavior...?

Just don't hold your breath!

I might also point out that every arranger is COMPARED to all other arrangers. You can't really talk about one without a comparison to others, otherwise there is no reference, no comparison, no opinion. So lighten up, will you?!

Or NEVER mention the Wersi in anything other than a Wersi titled thread... Got to at least follow your own rules, shouldn't you?

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#237253 - 07/30/08 02:54 PM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 4904
Loc: English Riviera, UK
This is the main difference; I compare the sounds of arrangers with real instruments, (The only true comparison) not other arrangers.

Bill
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#237254 - 07/31/08 05:24 PM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
rattley Offline
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Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 768
Loc: Punta Gorda Florida USA
This place NEVER changes.....Ugh!!!!

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#237255 - 07/31/08 11:56 PM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 4904
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Quote:
Originally posted by rattley:
[B]This place NEVER changes/B]


Fortunately

Bill
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#237256 - 08/01/08 11:05 AM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
Diki Offline
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 12861
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by rattley:
This place NEVER changes.....Ugh!!!!


Only person that can change it is YOU...

Don't like the topics, don't like the tone..? Post a more fascinating topic, post with a better tone.

Or just bitch about it... Your choice.

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#237257 - 08/02/08 02:20 AM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
Burkels Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 319
Loc: Alkmaar, The Netherlands, Euro...
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
I probably NEED to try to play better, a lot more than I NEED a new arranger.

How about you?


Very wise thought, Diki.
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#237258 - 08/02/08 07:34 AM Re: TYROS 3 ITS COMING SOON !!
Jrgen Srensen Offline
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Registered: 10/24/99
Posts: 361
Loc: Denmark
Hi

Quote:
Originally posted by rattley:
This place NEVER changes.....Ugh!!!!


Apparantly not.

IMO one problem in this group is "thread hijacking".

No matter the original thread subject a number of members here starts riding their hobby when the thread reaches message #10. Just take this thread as an example.

IMO if anyone wants to discuss e.g. "Wersi" then THEY ought to start a "Wersi" thread; instead of hijacking a running thread.

Just my opinion!

Have a nice day
Jrgen

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