I thought I ought to put this in a separate topic so as not to mess up DNJ topic where I originally posted it and shouldn't have. My apology
The problem I have run into that is driving me nutzo is the USB-Midi driver that came on a Cd with the keyboard, and also included the voice editor.
I have spent the last few days trying to get this driver installed on the P4 Intel Sony Vaio desktop with no luck. It installs but will not enable. The voice editor installs but will not function without that driver.
Now..............it is interesting to note that I brought the new Toshiba Satellite Laptop computer in to the studio and the Driver and voice editor installed without any problem. The Toshiba has a 17 inch screen so I can work with it but didn't want to except when traveling in the motorhome.
I wonder if the fact that this computer has the drivers for the Technics computers installed in it creates this problem. Or the Cakewalk Deluxe Pro Audio V 9?
I am amazed that with 20 years of experience with computers and electronic keyboards that I am unable to resolve this problem. Do any of you folks have any ideas for me to pursue. I have run out of ideas and Yamaha has not yet responded to my email plea for help I sent them on thursday November 10th.
I am now in the process of making changes in the registry in hopes of getting this driver installed
You many never hear from this computer again
Best to all and thanks for any help you may send my way. All help and advice appreciated.
BEBOP

I replied in another thread but... I had similar issues with the Motif ES usb drivers until I realized that there was a seperate driver for XP.

The one labeled "Usb driver" worked on every other windows system but XP. Is it possible that this is the case with the Tyros, or that they forgot to give you guys an xp driver ?

AJ

A good splace to start is to look att all the installed Windows drivers. Commands are:
START - RUN - CMD - DRIVERQUERY
(there are switches too, run Driverquery /? to see list)
This will at least let you see whether the additional MIDI drivers have been installed. Perhaps you could find them, save them, erase them and try again.

this is what I got in the dos window

driverquery is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch command.

AJ, the driver and voice editor utility both installed and work fine in my Toshiba Satellite Laptop with XP Home. This driver will not install in this Sony Vaio P4 Intell for some reason.
BEBOP

Is the Vaio also running XP? If so, is it XP Home or XP Professional?

My recommendation Bill is to uninstall the USB Driver if you haven't already. Go to Yamaha's site to get info on how to uninstall the USB Driver correctly.

After you uninstall the USB Driver you should in my opinion go to the Windows Update site and see if there are any updates for your computer. The critical updates are the most important but using the "Custom" scan option you may find other enhancement updates available that possibly may correct the anomaly you are having with the Vaio computer not installing the Yamaha USB Drivers correctly.

After installing any updates you should "Defrag" the Vaio's Hard Drive and also check the Hard Disk for any errors.

Also there is a possibility you may have a Virus[s] on your computer that is affecting your computer adversely. Spyware can also have a tendency to affect normal operations of a computer. Microsoft Beta Anti-Spyware program is an excellent program to rid your computer of Spyware. Ad-Aware is good one too. Also make sure your Virus Scanner's .dat files are up to date and scan for viruses if need be.

Then to install the USB Driver again make sure you follow Yamaha's directions to a tee. I also would recommend you close each and every other program running on your computer i.e. those that are running in the System Tray and those running in the background also. Hitting Ctrl/Alt/Del on your computer keyboard will bring up the Windows Task Manager. Go to the "Processes" tab (Windows XP/2000) and 'End Task' on every process that is safe to do so. PS: You need to be careful you don't 'end task' on a process that Windows needs to operate. If you have doubts about one or more of them then don't disable it/them. When the programs are safely closed out then you can attempt to re-install the Yamaha USB Driver again. If the Vaio is running XP then you want to install the XP Driver. If you are running a different OS than XP on your Vaio you need to install the corresponding USB Driver, e.g. Windows 2000, ME, 98SE, etc.

Hope this helps...

Best regards,
Mike

BEBOP,
I have a SONY VAIO as well. Just curious - Is the VAIO running XP or Media Center Edition, which is what I have.
Do both your Toshiba and VAIO have the same patch level (Service Packs) installed if your using XP?

SANMAN

Mike, thanks I have done most all of what you suggest above over the last 5 days I have been fighting with this problem.

San Man,
The desktop is running XP Home.
The laptop is running XP Home Media Center Edition.
the files loaded into the laptop and work fine. The editor program loads into the desktop fine and is ready to work once it gets a USB-Midi driver.
thanks guys.
Bebop

Bill,

I don't believe there is a driver available for XP Home Media Center Edition. This may be the problem. You may want to call Yamaha and check this out.

Good Luck,

Gary

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Travlin' Easy

Hi,
just wondering, do any of you have more than one usb keyboard connected to a computer at the same time ie keyboard 1 to usb1, keyboard 2 to usb2.
I tried it a while back with my clavinova & a DGX, but couldn't get it to work. Kept crashing .

Really just wondering if it should be possible, or whether some of Bebop's problems may be caused by having 2 usb keyboards and needing a different driver for each??

best wishes
Rikki

Gary,
The Toshiba Laptop computer has the midia center OS in it and the driver and the voice editor installed in it without problem and work fine.
It is the Desktop Sony VAIO that it won't install in and it has XP Home OS.
Bebop

Rikki,
I have never had two keyboards hooked into the computer through USB at the same time.
In the old days we used to hook up several through a midi patch bay processor. I think I had 7 hooked up at once. that was when we layed down one track at a time and usually from a different keyboard. thankfully those days have come and gone. It was really labor intensive and not a lot of fun
I have now spent 5 days on this problem and concluded that I don't want to waste any more time on it. Today I just decided to play and play and play and that is what I did all afternoon. There are some fine styles in this keyboard.
Tomorrow I will try to find the record button and record something. I can't record into the computer without a usb midi driver but I have a usb Disk drive I can hook up to it and I also have a Cigar USB Flash drive that is 256MB. So I am not stranded. Maybe by the time I get back to it someone else will he worked out the problem.
I am convinced now that the problem is in the registry. I did some hacking there today but apparently not enough as it still dont work. Oh Well,
Happy Sunday to all.
BEBOP


[This message has been edited by BEBOP (edited 11-12-2005).]

Word of warning for those that are wanting to modify the Registry, DO A BACKUP FIRST or if using XP CREATE A RESTORE POINT, as if you make a mistake you could completely ruin your Operating System, which in the worse case scenario, would mean a total reinstall of the system.
If you having problems with the system crashing when you run certain programs or drivers and are using XP, then send off the error report to Microsoft as the error box suggests, as if it is a known problem then a web page will open telling you the best way to cure it.
If you suspect a driver problem the first place you should go is Device Manager and check to see if there are any problems showing up, and thus narrowing the scope for identifying the cause.
If above is OK then open the Administrative tools in the control panel and select Event Viewer, then double click any errors in the hardware or software sections to find the probable cause for it.
Another option is to uninstall the problem drivers and programs, do a Clean Boot (This is not the same as safe mode) and then install them, if they then work OK, reset to Standard Boot.
Another tip is to try installing drivers with and without the keyboards connected, although normally you install the driver first and then plug the keyboard in. Also don’t leave your keyboard plugged in when starting the computer, wait until it is up and running.
Hope this helps.

Bill

Hey Bebop,

Just wondering out loud here....I see that Yamaha Japan has a new USB-Midi driver on their site as of last Friday, the 11th.

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/dl/driver/usb-midi/

Not sure if it's compatible with what you are doing but you could compare files with what came on the CD.

-mike

These Yamaha USB drivers seems to get revised/updated every other month or so. I guess it is in response to all the many people who have had problems with the driver? I have read on another forum that version 2.1.4 is considered the most stable. It is the one that works for me. It is interesting to note that Yamaha labelled version 2.1.5 as the Windows XP SP2 compatible version. I run Service Pack 2 on my computers and the prior version (2.1.4) works just fine.

I do not have any other MIDI USB drivers installed except for a MidiSport 2x2 driver.

Tom G.

I spent the entire weekend following up on all the good solid advice posted here but no results to report. I am still unable to get this driver enabled to work properly. Must be a conflict with other drivers, possible Earthlink and all their crappy software they keep putting in my computer and/or the Technics drivers.
Any new ideas for today?
No response from Yamaha yet although I notified them Last Thursday
BEBOP

1. What errors were showing up in Device Manager and or Event Viewer?
2. Open up System Information from the System Tools Folder, and on the Tools Menu run the Direct X Diagnostic tool, and see if this finds any errors.
3. Make sure you have the latest version of Direct X
4. Uninstall the Yamaha and Technics drivers, then load the Yamaha drivers in first, to see if it is now recognised, if not then there is no conflict with the Technics driver, if however it does work, then load in the Technics driver and see if the problem returns, this will identify whether there really is any conflicts between the 2 drivers.
Point to Note it may be the Technics driver that is the problem, as I believe this was written before Win XP SP2 was released.
The drivers for XP Home/Pro/Media centre are all the same; the only difference between them is the features offered.
Hope this helps.

Bill

HI BILL,
the computer info window tells me the driver is installed, enabled but not functioning properly.
This computer has the latest version of everything all done auto
Event viewer shows about 50 times that the driver is not working. I clicked on the MS url in there and the MS page told me they had no info regarding this problem
The device list doesn't show any problem unless you open up the driver and check on properties and it doesn't have any
the properties has two circles on it but no text alongs side of the circles but the top circle is selected. Clicking on the setting button doesn't do anything.
I installed the exact same driver in the Laptop Media center and it works fine. the cd only has one driver on it that is V 1.1.3.
You are correct in that the Technics Drivers came out before the SP 2 update of XP HOme. they work fine but could be a conflict with the Yam Driver. The Laptop does not yet have the Technics programs and drivers installed in it. It is a lot of work to take them out and install and take them out etc. so I have put that off as a last resort. I think I am just about at that last resort.
I will look into the ACTIVE X diagnostic tool that I was not aware of. Thanks for your help.
Best to you and yours,
Bebop ALSO BILL

If you use the Windows Automatic updates it will only download and install the critical updates, not any software or hardware updates, so do a manual custom check on the Windows update site. The latest Direct X is 9c.
The descriptions you have given indicate that the Yamaha driver has not installed correctly either due to a conflict or incompatibilities with Windows XP, I have also noticed in previous posts that the latest version is 2.1.4 were as yours is 1.1.4 and so this may be the cause of the problem.
My recommendation therefore is to get the latest driver possible and see if that works.
I will be back online later tonight (I live in the UK) so if you’re on Skype you can give me a call and we can talk through a few things to see if we can solve the problem. (Skype is free to download and free to use www.skype.com )
Skype name. abacusks1
Hope this helps.

Bill

BEBOP I sent you a file containing the USB release I got to work.
Did you receive it/not have any luck with this?

Craig,
I thot I saw something from you but before i could mark you as friend in Mail washer you got deleted. Please send again.
Thanks,
Bebop

I just updated direct x to 9 C.
the driver version is a typo.
It is 2.1.3 that came on the disc.
There are upgrades on the net to 2.1.4 and 2.1.5. I did download them but this computer install wizard would not let me access the folders on the hard drive they were in to install them.
This 2.1.3 installed in the Toshiba laptop without problem.
I do not have skype, as I have not got around to buying a headset yet.
Telephones are not a priority for me as I don't hear very well anymore. Too many years of loud music
Thanks for your help
Bill

I have just emailed you the latest driver from Yamaha UK, however in case it doesn’t get through here is the link. It is version 2.1.5.
Create a folder marked Yamaha on the desktop and unzip the files to this folder, then open the folder and read the read me file before installing. http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_euro....php?country=uk

Bill

Hi,
probably not much help as my laptop was only windows 98 and the driver I was trying to install was for a Yamaha Clavinova.

My laptop was functioning perfectly with my kn7000. Then I bought my Clavinova I installed the driver. Couldn't get it to work. I uninstalled my KN7 setup, driver etc. and I'm 99% sure that when I reinstalled the driver for the Clavinova , it worked.
It was more important for me to have the KN7 connected via usb to the laptop, than it was the Clavinova, so I can only assume I removed the yamaha usb driver and reinstalled the kn7.
I ended up connecting the Clavinova to the laptop via a serial cable & cbx driver.

I checked my old win 98 laptop. My kn7 software is still in there but I can't see any of the Clavinova software , which leads me to beleive I took it out for a good reason.

This all happened over 18 months ago , so memory is a bit sketchy.

I don't think I ever got round to trying to install both drivers into my current xp laptop, only the usb driver for the clav.

I don't understand the differences between the operating systems of win98 & xp, so what happened to me, may be of no relavence.

One thing though, I'm not terribly good with computers, but I don't give up easily, so I would have tried all sorts of scenario's installing & uninstalling the drivers. Hopefully it was just my lack of knowledge and that xp will work with both drivers installed.


best wishes
Rikki

thanks for that update Rikki, We may yet find that your information is correct and will have to delete technics to install Yamaha. I hope not because I will have both keyboards.

Bill Abacus.
Your driver arrived here but it was marked a virus by Mail Washer and even though I made your addy a Friend it would still not download it from the server and in fact deleted it.
However...........
I finally got an email from my complaint to Yamaha mailed last Thursday the 10th and they sent me a url for a website where I downloaded a new driver that is 2.1.6 and was just released on the 7th of NOV.
I will let you know if this works or not.
LATER: I did everything exactly as you said and installed the new 2.1.6 and absolutely nothing changed. It is installed, it is enabled but it doesn't function.
Gone to supper
thanks for your help,
Bebop

[This message has been edited by BEBOP (edited 11-14-2005).]

Windows XP is based on the Windows NT platform rather then the Dos platform of 98.
1. Uninstall the Yamaha driver from Device Manager.
2. Locate all drivers relating to Technics in Device Manager, Right click them and select disable.
3. Restart the computer and follow the instructions in the read me file that came with the Yamaha driver.
4. If this works then you can re-enable the Technics drivers, Restart the computer and then see if it continues to work, if it now stops working then you will need to disable the Technics driver whenever you need to use the Yamaha program. (You could also setup two separate hardware Profiles, 1 for the Technics and 1 for the Yamaha and then choose which you require at start up)
5. If the above fails then you will probably need to uninstall the Technics driver, load in the Yamaha driver, and then re-install the Technics driver.
6. You can also try getting in touch with your local computer help centre, explain to them the problems and they may be able to talk you through various diagnostic procedures.
Hope this helps.

Bill

I finally got a reply from Yamaha Service Yesterday and they sent me a 10 page manual to uninstall any Yam drivers already installed and also attached a new Driver as an .exe file that my computer mail program M S Outlook blocked as a possible virus. I replied to Yam and ask them to resend the driver as something other then an .exe program, like change the suffix or zip it or what ever. NO REPLY.
The file attached that was deleted was Driver version 2.1.5. I thought that odd as a different CS rep had sent me a website the day before to go and download v 2.1.6.
I asked the last CS rep why but as I said no reply yet.
Am I confused yet. Quite a bit. Tomorrow the keyboard will be here two weeks and I think I have played it but mostly i have been trying to get the support software for it installed on my computer. I didn't just want another keyboard to play. I have 10 more in here that I can just play
End of latest report.
BEBOP

Whenever I have a problem installing a driver or program, I defeat[turn off] my virus protection and everything installs properly...Usually the viruss protection causes a code 10 error when installing software[in conflict]..

Bill
What about lowering you security temporarily to get your .exe file ?

Thanks Fran,
I always do that whenever I install any app or driver.
It begins to look like the problem could be the Technics Drivers and apps that were created before xp SP2 and may have to be deleted. The Yam software did install on the new Toshiba Satellite Laptop with xp media edition and no technics programs or drivers installed on it.
Bebop

HI BERNIE,
changing security settings doesn't change the way outlook is set up to work, See below:
I received a message with an attachment, but I can't see or open the attachment

By default, Microsoft Outlook blocks attachment files ( such as .bat, .exe, .vbs, and .js) that can contain viruses. You cannot see or access the attachments. Your Inbox will display the paperclip icon in the Attachment column to let you know that the message has an attachment, and you will see a list of the blocked attachment files in the InfoBar at the top of your message. If you try to open the attachment by right-clicking the item, View Attachments will not appear on the shortcut menu. If you need to use files, such as .exe files, from others, have them post the files to a network share or to a Web share that you can access.

Hey Bebop,

There is a way to reduce the security of Outlook (through a registry hack) that will allow the access of executable files. The .exe file is there, it's just being blocked right now.

I'll post the instructions straight up and let you decide if you want to proceed.

Using Regedit, navigate to the following key:

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Security

HCKU = HKEY_CURRENT_USER and I'm using Office 2003 so that's '11.0'. Yours could be different.

In the Security key, you'll need to create a new String Value called; "Level1Remove" (without the quotes)(that's a number one). The data to enter in this new string value should look like this;

.exe;.ini;.url;

And so on. Semi-colons to separate, no spaces.

I know that's technical and if all this appears to be gibberish, don't attempt it. I can always send you a *.reg file for you to enter but I would need more info about your config.

-mike

Hello Bill
Not sure how it works in the States but here in the UK you can also access your emails by going direct to the ISPs Web Site, which should then allow you to download the Attachment.
I would also recommend that you set Outlook to leave messages on the server for a few days, so that if you find Outlook will not download it, the email will still be on the server.
Another option is to set up a Web email account, such as Hotmail or Yahoo etc, and then just keep it for people who need to send you attachments.
Finally did you remove the Yamaha driver, disable the Technics driver (Rather then uninstall it) and then reload the Yamaha driver.
Oh and while I think about it, do not forget to Create a System Restore point and/or Backup the Registry before doing any modifications.
Hope this helps.

Bill

HI MIKE and Bill,
Yes Mike I can hack the registry and thanks for that info.
I was not in the studio today due to time constraints. We are getting ready to leave in the motorhome for a trip over thanksgiving and losts of home chores have to be done before leaving and they have priority over getting this driver working.
I got a letter from Yam service today with the USB mid driver version 2.1.6 correctly attached and a note that the problem is in my comuter and not in the driver.
I just need a new computer, thats all
thanks guys,
Best to you all,
Happy Thanksgiving to you all also.
Bebop