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#202130 - 01/05/04 12:58 PM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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Steve Deming said, "Organ Flute Voices using Modeling technology". Hmmmm. The Clavi Nord uses modeling technology and the sound on it is amazing according to reviewers. The Fender Rhodes sound on the Clavi Nord is supposed to be the best as well.
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#202131 - 01/05/04 01:10 PM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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Wow nice specs. Geez it seems that the PSR-1500 is damn close to the PSR-2000 minus the harmonizer. There seems to be a pretty huge jump between the models now. A lot of major features have been added.. Especially 96 note poly to the lower model, organ flutes, smart media, internet connection. Man all that is one hell of a leap from the PSR-1100 to the 1500......

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#202132 - 01/06/04 03:27 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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So, the only differences will be:

PSR3000:
Mega-Voice Technology
Vocal Harmony and Video Out
color screen
30 styles more
100 OTS more
100 voices more
32 notes polyphony more

What about audio in?



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#202133 - 01/06/04 06:54 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
Dnj Offline
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SO THE KEYBED IS THE SAME AS HE 2K,21K?

NO AUX OUTPUTS?

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#202134 - 01/06/04 07:46 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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It seems PSR3000 keys will be the same of all PSRs, that is, smaller than standard piano or other manufacturers ones (Roland, Korg, etc.), and with a very bad key feel.
So, "normal" keys lovers should emigrate to others brands, or wait more time.
It is a pity.

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#202135 - 01/06/04 08:01 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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but the keyfeel question is WHY WHY WHY wont they listen to the masses?

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#202136 - 01/06/04 08:37 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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He didn't come out and say it, but gathering from the pictures and what Steve didn't say... looks a lot like we're headed for the same old lousy key feel.

Maybe I'm wrong, but for the most part I'm done right now.. I'm not even interested in the 3000 any more. If at some point I find a good deal on a non PSR arranger that I can use for a backup, I'm going that route instead. otherwise I'll live with what I have, and if my PA80 breaks down and I have to entertain as a solo player and maybe use a midi file or two to balance it, so be it. I can handle it. The Motif ES comes along with me anyway. No big deal.

Like everyone else, I want to entertain and be successful at it. I don't overdo it with the soloing, but when I do solo, I want to showcase my abilities and I want a good tool that I feel comfortable playing an intense solo on. The PSR keybed just isn't it. I played a $300 USd Casio WK clone in Radio Shack that had more life in it's key response.

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#202137 - 01/06/04 08:45 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
Dnj Offline
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Maybe Steve can enlighten us on why Yamaha is so lax in making this "KEYBED" issue a top priority certain models.

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#202138 - 01/06/04 09:15 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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My perception ( and of course.. that's what it is, a perception ), is that Yamaha doesn't market the PSR's toward professionals who make a living at playing music, and that we are a scant few in their overall marketing scheme. Perhaps the majority of the users, in their mindset, are the home players looking to have something that's a step up from the WK series and low end PSR boards.

My perception may very well be completely inaccurate, but I've drawn it based upon my experiences with Yamaha along conversations with others including dealers who sell their products and deal with Yamaha reps.

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#202139 - 01/06/04 10:01 AM Re: Yamaha PSR3000 / PSR1500 Questions
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bluezplayer:
Yamaha doesn't market the PSR's toward professionals who make a living at playing music, and that we are a scant few in their overall marketing scheme. Perhaps the majority of the users, in their mindset, are the home players looking to have something that's a step up from the WK series and low end PSR boards.


AJ. I concur with your thoughts. I mean just 'how many' keyboard performers have any of you seen on TV, or live in concert on stage (other than us here, of course ) who are actually using a Yamaha PSR2000/2100 in their act. In fact, how many 'arranger keyboards' in general has anyone here seen used when attending a paid stage concert (either solo or group) show? We professsional arranger keyboard performers here are definitely a rare breed here. Home amateur hobbyists have been the arranger keyboard's primary marketing audience for years. It's only in the last few years that arranger manufacterers have finally begun to respond to the needs of the professional keyboard player. I predict that arrangers will be seen more often on stage in the years to come, and even become respected by fellow so called legit keyboard players as well. Times change, and people's taste do as well. I think it's important that we all continue to 'push' for arranger features required of the professional working keyboard player. - Scott
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