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#184018 - 10/04/06 06:57 PM how to find what notes or chords work in a song
Jared4781 Offline
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Registered: 10/04/06
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hey, im really new to this whole music stuff. I was wondering, I produce remixes and wanted to know how do you find what notes or chords or whatever it might be call, im really not sure, would work in a song. thanks.

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#184019 - 10/04/06 07:40 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
Uncle Dave Offline
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Wow, Jared .... you have a whole world of oportunity available to you , but you will need to learn at leat a FEW basics before you produce that first million seller that's in your head.

You'll need a few simple, theory lessons, and a working knowledge of scales and chords before you can assemble the raw notes into a meaningful arrangement.

Start with a do -re - mi scale. Ever see the movie, "The Sound OF Music" That's a great place to start.

Learn a few scales, then the chord names that go with each note in the scale, and you'll be ready to start experimenting!

Good luck !
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#184020 - 10/05/06 05:04 AM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
doc-z Offline
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a great way for beginners is to use the circle of 5ths.

The circle of 5ths are all the 12 keys organised in a circle of 5th intervals. The way to use it is to choose a key, then the 5 chords next to it are the basic chords of the key.

For instance in the key of F, the basic chords are: F, Bb, C, Dm, Gm, and Am.

Here's the circle http://library.thinkquest.org/15413/media/images/circleof5ths.gif

Red ones are minor keys, and blue ones are major keys.

Doc-Z

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#184021 - 10/05/06 05:48 AM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
trident Offline
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Doc-Z,
thanks for that... but i didn;t eactly relise how it works.....
so, using your example i move from F to C...that means thet the 5 chords surrounding C can be used next?
like F, G, Dm, Am, and Em?
that is gow it works?

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#184022 - 10/05/06 05:43 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
Jared4781 Offline
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Registered: 10/04/06
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I've done some remixes, under the Vibelicious name .. have a few release (of course with people helping) .. wow! im so confused, anyone know where I can learn some stuff or is anyone here willing to teach some stuff? I am totally confused on the 5th thing you showed as well

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#184023 - 10/05/06 06:18 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
Chris Valenti Offline
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#184024 - 10/05/06 06:47 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
Jared4781 Offline
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Registered: 10/04/06
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wow thanks for all the help ... however im still really confused. I really have no knowledge of scales, chords, etc ... so when reading all of these sites I am really confused and have no understanding of that they mean.

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#184025 - 10/05/06 10:45 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
abacus Offline
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The best way is to buy a book on scales and learn them, (C.F &G will get you going on a lot of songs) that way you have played virtually every song ever made. (They all use notes from the relevant scale)
Once you have learnt a scale, you can use the Circle of Fifths to find the Main Chords.
Hope this Helps

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#184026 - 10/05/06 11:27 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
eddiefromrotherham Offline
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Hi All
I am coming into this thread at a late stage.
What's all this about the circle of fifths?
I have known these for 60 years.... but where do these help you to find the chords of a song?!!!
cheers
Eddie

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#184027 - 10/05/06 11:51 PM Re: how to find what notes or chords work in a song
Falcon XR6 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/06
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Loc: Melbourne, Vic, Aust
For me, this is the easiest way (a cheats way too, but who gives a ...).

With C, G, F and A minor and you'll have the equipment for the vast majority of pop songs.

Throw in D minor and E minor and you're well on the way.

Start with a right hand melody and see which chord works best.

Experiment with Em and Dm, if you need a more mellow sound.

The rest is to play them until it sounds right. You'll know which ones fit together.

Once the tune sounds right, use a transpose function to make it fit the actual key of the original.

Bob's your uncle ...
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