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#168636 - 08/23/07 10:21 AM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
Two things:

1. The first PSR-S900 had problems right out of the box before I plugged the midi device in.

2. The midi device only does one thing: It sends a message to sustain notes on channel one. It shouldn't be causing the Music Finder database to come up when I press variations C & D.

3. I did a full system reset and the problems persisted. I cannot see any way that my midi device would have caused a hardware problem or a software problem that could not be resolved with a system reset. I was able to get OTSs #1 and #2 to start working again.

4. I have been using this device successfully with two PSR2000s, two PSR2100s, and two PSR3000s. Outside of the Data Select Wheel not working with one of my PSR-S900s, the keyboard is stable using this device.

5. Sweetwater Sound had a PSR-s900 before almost anyone else had one. I was one of the first in the USA to get one. I doubt it was a return or refurb.

6. The latest keyboard I got was shipped the day it was received from Yamaha.

All that said, I do regret not having bought my keyboard from George.

I seem to have bad keyboard karma.

Sweetwater is going to test their one remaining PSR-s900 before they ship it to me to replace this one.


Beakybird

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#168637 - 08/23/07 10:28 AM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
You MIGHT try double-checking that MIDI pedal, Beaky. Is it battery operated (some VERY nasty things can get sent when the batteries get low in some MIDI gear)?

You might try just hooking it up to a computer sequencer (make sure NO filters are on) and press it a bunch of times (even try switching it on and off while recording). Then look in List Edit at all the codes, in case there is something out of place.

I'm not saying that IS the problem, but it's a fairly easy thing to check, and MIGHT save you a lot more pain if it turns out to have a problem...
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#168638 - 08/23/07 10:54 AM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
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I will check it. The first PSR-s900 had problems right out of the box. I noticed it when I was playing the keyboard in my office. My midi sustain unit is kept in the trunk of my car.

With the second keyboard, I noticed the problem one time, right out of the box, but then it went away, and everything seemed to work fine - until I got to my gig.

I will check to see if the unit is sending some unwanted code. Thanks for the suggestion.

Beakybird

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#168639 - 08/23/07 11:07 AM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
And why a MIDI sustain pedal..? What's wrong with a regular one?
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#168640 - 08/23/07 11:24 AM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Beakybird,

Just got word back from Yamaha Canada head office...no S900 data wheel problems nor any of the other issues that you experienced.

Ian

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#168641 - 08/23/07 11:30 AM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
And why a MIDI sustain pedal..? What's wrong with a regular one?


Hi Diki,

The S900 supports only 2 assignable foot controllers. A midi assignable foot controller allows you to increase the # of assignable foot controllers available the keyboard. Tyros2 includes 3 assignable foot controllers. I utilize a Midi Solutions Foot Controller to increase that to three:

1) sustain
2) fill to self
3) registration advance
4) vocal harmony on-off
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/010656.html

Scott
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#168642 - 08/23/07 12:00 PM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I just got off the phone with Steve Deming at Yamaha. I read him what your problems are and he's checking into the situation.
Steve has assured me that Japan is researching issues of loose cables and screws as I've already mentioned.

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#168643 - 08/23/07 12:23 PM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
YamahaUS1 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/02
Posts: 238
Loc: Buena Park, CA, USA
Larry,

I may be able to clear this up if you would call me.



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#168644 - 08/23/07 12:49 PM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
OldNewb Offline
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Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 638
Loc: Shorewood Wi. USA
Beakybird,
I feel bad that you are having such problems and on two boards no less.
It must really suck to be going through what you are and I hope it will all get taken care of soon.
I love my S900 and have had nothing but enjoyment with it and hope you can love yours as well soon.
Jim
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#168645 - 08/23/07 04:05 PM Re: Another defective PSR-S900
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
I just spoke with Steve Demming at Yamaha. He was very nice. We walked through what's going on with my keyboard. We tried another full reset. The keyboard is definitely not working right. He has a hunch that it might be a loose or faulty data cable, but he said that he would have to see it to be sure. He expressed amazement that one customer could have two keyboards with similar problems.

He told me that despite my having scratched the first unit I got, that Yamaha would take it back - if Sweetwater allows me to take it back. That is a very kind gesture as it would allow me to not have a keyboard tied up in the shop (and to get an unscratched keyboard as well).

Sweetwater called me to tell me that they tested the unit they have, and there are no problems with the data wheel. They are overnighting it to me with a return label for the one I just got. My fingers are crossed.

I am not going to plug the midi controller in until I test it on a computer. I don't want to jinx anything.

Beakybird

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