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#154217 - 08/13/07 08:57 PM Re: As successful as we are....
hellboy44 Offline
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Registered: 11/04/03
Posts: 541
Loc: Australia
Zuki, there is a particular Agency we know (a Married Couple) who are a couple of grand Wankers (Australian slang).

They haven't booked us despite sending demos, EPKs and constant emails for a year!

I eventually gave up on them after hearing more than one Musician (and even a Comedian I worked with) thought they were just too prickly to deal with - *understatement alert*

I don't lose (too) much sleep over it now, the only reason I lose SOME is they book for a couple of venues (Casinos) we'd LURVE to get into.

Like yourself, we're very popular (um - not 2 gigs a day popular though!!!) so I've realised that sometimes, it's THEM not YOU if you know what I mean!

G'luck with the rest of your career bud!

HB.
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#154218 - 08/13/07 10:49 PM Re: As successful as we are....
Taike Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 2665
Loc: Taiwan-Laos-China
Zuki,

Do what YOU want and don't be pressured into something you DON"T want to do. To demo or not to demo, it's up to you and not someone else. You owe no one anything!
Like Hellboy says, good luck... and have a blast!

Taike
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#154219 - 08/13/07 11:24 PM Re: As successful as we are....
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3106
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
I will not boast about the number of jobs I have anymore - I'll keep it to myself.
IAN: I have a strong sales/marketing backgroung and use those skills to book myself via phone calls and letters. I practice ALL THE TIME to better myself and work on new material. Of course, now that I have played my first year (started in Feb with one job that month, I've been rebooked up to 10 times in the subsequent months per each account I've played).

zuki


Hi zuki

I hope that you do continue to tell us how many bookings you have. I think it's great. You are very successful doing what you're doing and I think any info that you would care to share here on how you manage to do this would be considered valuable information to the majority. It gives people a chance to see really what can be done.

Scott

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#154220 - 08/14/07 12:15 AM Re: As successful as we are....
Taike Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 2665
Loc: Taiwan-Laos-China
Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
Hi zuki

I hope that you do continue to tell us how many bookings you have. I think it's great. You are very successful doing what you're doing and I think any info that you would care to share here on how you manage to do this would be considered valuable information to the majority. It gives people a chance to see really what can be done.

Scott



Thanks, Scott, for being the voice of reason.
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#154221 - 08/14/07 03:38 AM Re: As successful as we are....
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10592
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
IAN: I have a strong sales/marketing backgroung and use those skills to book myself via phone calls and letters. I practice ALL THE TIME to better myself and work on new material. Of course, now that I have played my first year (started in Feb with one job that month, I've been rebooked up to 10 times in the subsequent months per each account I've played). zuki


Zuki,

I am glad you are so successful, and I appreciate your answer.

Please do not feel I am trying to pressure you into posting a demo...I know I wouldn't like it done to me.

Enjoy your success...you have obviously earned it.

Ian
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#154222 - 08/14/07 04:30 AM Re: As successful as we are....
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4028
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Zuki,
Wow that is a lot of jobs, something to be proud about. And yes keep telling us, I enjoy hearing about someone’s success. You might even share your method of playing and salesmanship with the other members on this forum, I am sure it would be appreciated. Helping others is always a good thing.

Let me say this gently – If there are three hundred people who love me and there is one who does not – and it troubles me, what am I saying about myself.

Zuki, I have been there, thinking that the whole world was about me, is not a good place be. That woman my have had many reasons of not wanting you to hire you --- and the reasons have nothing to do with you personality or your music. It could been her time of the month, you reminded her of her ex-husband or whatever. The bottom line is that you are being hired and approved of sixty times a month, is it possible that they are wrong about you and your playing and personality??? No my friend they are not.

Only MHO, John C,

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#154223 - 08/14/07 06:35 AM Re: As successful as we are....
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4187
Thank you fellows for the kind remarks.

Here's what I have to say about getting the amount of bookings I have:

I WANT IT MORE THAN THE NEXT GUY This past executive businessman is living the music life in the FAST LANE. You know, the feeling that there are never enough hours in the day to get everything done. That's how I go about my bookings, my practice, my persistence, etc. I'm careful to carry into my job the skills necessary to be as good or better than any other performer before me. Of course, this is almost impossible, thus the constant drive is always there - a great closed loop

There are no secrets. In ANY profession, the BUSY person, who PERFECTS his craft, will win out.

That is the message behind my original post. I take no prisoners because I believe in myself, LOVE what I do and take offense when others don't feel the same - nothing wrong with that - I get over it.

zuki
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#154224 - 08/14/07 06:46 AM Re: As successful as we are....
Taike Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 2665
Loc: Taiwan-Laos-China
Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
Thank you fellows for the kind remarks.

Here's what I have to say about getting the amount of bookings I have:

I WANT IT MORE THAN THE NEXT GUY This past executive businessman is living the music life in the FAST LANE. You know, the feeling that there are never enough hours in the day to get everything done. That's how I go about my bookings, my practice, my persistence, etc. I'm careful to carry into my job the skills necessary to be as good or better than any other performer before me. Of course, this is almost impossible, thus the constant drive is always there - a great closed loop

There are no secrets. In ANY profession, the BUSY person, who PERFECTS his craft, will win out.

That is the message behind my original post. I take no prisoners because I believe in myself, LOVE what I do and take offense when others don't feel the same - nothing wrong with that - I get over it.

zuki



Also known as Zukism.

Zuki, as always, I'm happy for your success. You've earned each and every gig, my friend.

Taike
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Those that cry "freedom" often are the oppressors.

Science can't explain everything, but religion can't explain anything.

Those that are free don't have the need to mention it about every 5 minutes.

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#154225 - 08/14/07 06:47 AM Re: As successful as we are....
keysvocalssax Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 845
Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
Zuki, I think it's great you have all those gigs, but rather than ask advice from all of us about how to overcome one rejection, why not share the secret of all those gigs, because you may not have realized it but i don't think any of us can claim 60+ gigs a month at approx $200 per gig..or even close. now this is presuming you weren't asking our advice as a smokescreen--and you are entitled to the benefit of the doubt, since nobody here knows your real motives for certain: bragging, insecurity, or blissful ignorance of how difficult this business is for the overwhelming majority of qualified musicians. So please..clue us in..if it's not just dumb luck there must be a method.. Or can it be that you are just so much more talented as a performer than all of us..because as we all know it takes a lot more than talent to work steadily. but if you do post samples that show you to be transcendentally talented then we at least can comfort ourselves that we were not blessed with those gifts and therefore should have no unrealistic expectations. THANKS!!

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#154226 - 08/14/07 06:57 AM Re: As successful as we are....
Fran Carango Online   content
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 8956
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
When Zuki was thinking about going into music full time..he had some reservations..I recall talking with him, and confirmed that he could make a decent living[also shared other folks that were doing well]..
Zuki isn't bragging ..he is sharing his excitement that he is doing well, and maybe better than he expected so soon..

Share with his joy...rather than degrading his accomplishments..Too bad he won't use SMF's or play a Roland..He could do much better..
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