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#112494 - 02/16/07 04:37 PM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
cwalkeralso Offline
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I appreciate the response. Since posting my request, I found a lengthy history of Roland, with discussion of their arranger boards ( http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/articles/roland.htm ). I hadn't come across the Korg site, thanks, DonM, for that link. Neither had I come across Jorgen's Yamaha link, so that is certainly appreciated. And for sure, no mention of arrangers would be complete without starting with Hammond, etc.

What about Technics/Panasonic, Wersi, Casio, etc? What manufacturers am I leaving out? Forgive my ignorance, but my only personal experience is with Yamaha. All the input is helpful, and appreciated.

Charles




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#112495 - 02/16/07 04:40 PM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
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The PSR-4500/4600 were nearly identical, except for a few cosmetics...although the 4600 had several different accompaniment styles.

They both used the D.A.S.S. which was FM and AWM simply combined without Vectors.

I used to like the unique "roll bars" that were situated under the keyboard and allowed for pitch bend and modulation...pretty cool!

Ian



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#112496 - 02/16/07 04:44 PM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
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Better learn German to get much info on Wersi's....

Just joking, but hey, when are they EVER going to translate their own website to the English language? It's a LOT easier to sell something if you can read the manufacturer's website. How many Yamaha's would get sold if Japanese kanji were the only way to find out about them?
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#112497 - 02/16/07 05:05 PM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
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Don't forget Hohner P-120/100 and ADAM.(1994)

Also, JVC KB-300/500.(1984)

Seiko had the DS-202 (1983)

Siel MK-900.(1984)

Farfisa F1 and F5, and F6. (around 1993)

Then there is GEM WS2,WS400, WS1, WX2 and CD1.(1990's)

Also the Kawai X20/30(1992) FS2000 Super Lab(1992), and FS640 and derivatives(1992).

The Orla KX400, KX750.(1990's)

Solton MS5, MS4, MS50 and similar models.(1990's)

Wersi had the Pegasus(1994) and others.

Kurzweil had the Mark 10 and Mark 150 (1993), the latter being more of a grand piano type instrument.

I hope this helps.

Ian



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#112498 - 02/17/07 12:10 AM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
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#112499 - 02/17/07 12:13 AM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
Jørgen Sørensen Offline
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#112500 - 02/17/07 01:51 AM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Hello Charles
When doing the research please remember that the arranger name did not come about till around the 90s, so also search for single manual organs and single and/or portable keyboards before then.
Regarding Wersi their main instruments were always Organs (And to a large extent still are) therefore Arranger keyboards do not feature heavily, however 3 models that worked toward Arrangers were the Keyfox, Pegasus (Early 90s) and Abacus, (2000) but even these were really Single Manual Organs and a true Arranger Keyboard was not released until 2003 when the Ikarus was introduced. (This is why in spite of the Ikarus larger keyboard, the price is significantly below the Abacus)
BTW there are rumours circulating that Wersi are going to introduce a board under the Ikarus, which if true should be interesting. (Please remember the last part is a rumour with as yet no solid supporting facts)
Hope this helps

Bill
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#112501 - 02/17/07 02:13 AM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
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Will always have fond memories of the then famous Roland E30 .. Wasnt it incredibly expensive back then?

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#112502 - 02/17/07 04:36 AM Re: I need help with history of arranger keybds
cwalkeralso Offline
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Registered: 10/22/05
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Loc: State of Washington, US
My first instrument was the Yamaha Electone BK-20AS, purchased in 1973.

I found this history of the Electone series:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~wkoopman/electone/

Pictured here is the basic model. Mine was slightly different, in dark walnut and with a more attractive speaker grill.


The series has come a long way since then.


Charles


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