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#104477 - 04/24/05 02:57 AM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
silva Offline
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Registered: 01/26/04
Posts: 152
Loc: Lisbon, Portugal
Quote:
Originally posted by Stephenm52:
I'm considering buying either a Yamaha PSR 3000 or possibly a Roland G70.


Hi, Stephenm52

Why PSR 3000 not Tyros?

Franky

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#104478 - 04/24/05 05:16 AM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Some consideration to $$ and also that's it's 61 keys and the possibility that the new Tyros II will have 76 keys.

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#104479 - 04/24/05 06:51 AM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15556
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I've been trying to put this in my mind why some members claim they need more than 61 keys. I've watched many 76 and 88 key players perform, and most perform well within the range of 61 keys. I never seen a piano player play the extreme lower or upper ends of the keybed. In most instances, when playing a 61 key keyboard as a piano the left had begins at C-2 and pretty much stays in that range, while the right hand rarely strays much above C-4's octave, and when it does, it's only few a few scant notes.

I'm really interested in hearing why there's a need for 76 or 88 keys, and the songs that make the need for them so necessary.

Cheers,

Gary
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#104480 - 04/24/05 09:23 AM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
ironhill Offline
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Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 109
Loc: NRW, Germany
Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
I'm really interested in hearing why there's a need for 76 or 88 keys, and the songs that make the need for them so necessary.

Cheers,

Gary


Hi Gary,
a second splitpoint to separate upper3 sound.
Have a look at G-70 demo of Roland US. You'll see.
Regards,
Hanspeter

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#104481 - 04/24/05 09:33 AM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by ironhill:

Have a look at G-70 demo of Roland US. You'll see.

http://www.rolandus.com/products/ck_deta...age=1&ReviewID=

Scott
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#104482 - 04/24/05 11:14 AM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
Roel Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1232
The video demo in mono(and audio samples) all are recorder direct from the mixing console.... right ?

Please can anyone explain why I always get the impression it is recorded with mikes, about 20 meters from the speakers ? (delay etc)

If I were Roland, I would reduce this effect a lot, just to get a better accent on sound-quality. Imagine what happens in a 'real' hall : People get it twice ! (internal Hall-simulation PLUS the actual Hall-effects)

I prefer cristal-clear sound from the speakers. (e.g. like Scott's machine has)

Just my opinion

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#104483 - 04/24/05 12:58 PM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
ironhill Offline
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Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 109
Loc: NRW, Germany
Quote:
Originally posted by Roel:

Please can anyone explain why I always get the impression it is recorded with mikes, about 20 meters from the speakers ? (delay etc)


Hi Roel,
it's only to give people a reason to grumble about. Nothing else. The last question, I think, has been another.
Regards,
Hanspeter

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#104484 - 04/24/05 01:15 PM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
Roel Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1232
Hanspeter,

I'm serious my friend..... is this sound 'Roland-typical' nowadays ? (distance miking instead of close-miking)

I used to have the Soundcanvas SC55 loooooong time ago and I cannot remember I noticed it at that time.
Perhaps it's my English, but what are you trying to say about the 'last question'?



[This message has been edited by Roel (edited 04-24-2005).]

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#104485 - 04/24/05 03:41 PM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
ironhill Offline
Member

Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 109
Loc: NRW, Germany
Quote:
Originally posted by Roel:
Perhaps it's my English, but what are you trying to say about the 'last question'?

[This message has been edited by Roel (edited 04-24-2005).]


Hi Roel,
no, I think your English is much better than mine, and you know it! But this is not important. Last question has been
Garry's about the amount of key's.
Best Regards,
Hanspeter

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#104486 - 04/24/05 04:28 PM Re: Advice on what to buy Yamaha or Roland
Stephenm52 Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
I'm really interested in hearing why there's a need for 76 or 88 keys, and the songs that make the need for them so necessary.

Cheers,

Gary

From Stephenm52

I originally studied piano and for the most of the last 30 years always used 88 keys because I strictly played piano. A couple of years ago I started with low end Yamaha arranger for fun. One thing lead to another and I started taking an arranger on gigs. I guess for me it's my security blanket in the remote case that someone asks me to play a ragtime or classical piece of music.

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