And I think this thread is done now. Hey I must be frank and confess that I have never been very trusting of governments in ANY country. I grew up in the 60s during the Vietnam war ( only just narrowly missing being drafted in Australia to go fight in that war ) and generally tend to regard all government representatives with suspicion until they prove themselves otherwise. Though Jimmy Carter certainly has proved himself to be a man of honor and has achieved some amazing things and I give him full credit for his work. But generally I think goverment representatives are all too concerned with their own self interest. But don't mistake them for the people they represent. That is not at all fair.
Don't attack other nations and think that people from there won't take offense.
I don't think this is the place for political discussion and criticism. There are other forums better suited for for that. But just NOT here!!! Just accept people for who they are not who they are ruled by. We all love the countries we come from so we aren't different at all fundamentally.
[This message has been edited by Nigel (edited 11-23-2006).]