Magic Fingers Scott: As usual your point, is well taken and fully agreed with. But think not that "real musicians" were absent from my thoughts, when I posted those words. I'm not sure what an "unreal musician" is but if the users are left out of the mix---DISASTER LOOMS FOR ANY NEW PRODUCT. I'm sure when you or any of us accept any important gig, are only thoughts up to performance time is the AUDIENCE OR THE CUSTOMERS. Will they like my product, will they understand my product, is my style and song seletction the very best for the purpose, and most important will they be so satisfied they will insist on what I am selling them, over and over again. So it should be with Technics, Yamaha, and all the rest of the manufactures. Of course the best laid plans ever concieved for any product is subject, to miscalculation and rejection by those we are trying to convince. Even when everything has been considered, there is still a need for a little luck and maybe a prayer here and there. So my nice forum friends, as we look forward to this fall with anticipation, let us hope for the best, and be prepared for the worst. Cheers, and strike a few "notes" everyday. ARJ