Thank you Nigel...I understand that you are involved in gaming as a profession, so you know the deal.

What is surprising is the longevity of the old PS2...I have the regular old one (still in use) and a brand new slim model still in box I bought for $25.

I think the Gran Turismo 4 game still has more actual fun and playabilty, and this surely brought to better realism with the Logitech G-25 wheel and pedals which we have secured to a strong table set up in front of the big old flat screen TV. We have a bucket seat from a Civic one of the guys mounted on a computer chair platform...even has a seatbelt...ha ha.

The G-25 wheel is that sensitive, you can actually feel the tires slip and the different textures in pavement...it has several motors in the column part, and the wheel was nearly $300 several years ago..of course the GT4 game itself provides the neat feedback. Yes, the graphics aren't as good as the new games, but it doesn't seem to matter.

We run against the clock (time trial) with the tires in the game that replicate actual street tires...man, it does feel pretty real...some of the guys here never played a driving game and they are blown away. We are like a bunch of kids.

I can only imagine how incredibly accurate a newer driving game will be on the PS4...my only concern would be that I may need to buy a new wheel, and a really good one like the G-25 would likely be costly.

Have you ever played a PS2 game called ICO?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ico

I was lucky to get a new one, following the advice of some avid gamers, and I must say it was, and still is, the most fascinating and compelling game I've ever played...it's not a violent shoot-em-up, but a game of strategy and planning, but not so hard as to be discouraging.

It's worth the price of a PS2 to play it on if you can find the game.

Thanks again for the heads-up.

Ian

PS...in regards to old game platforms...they seem to have become popular again, as have the old games...graphics aren't as good (comparatively) but apparently, a lot more gaming fun and some of those old games were pretty challenging.