Yeah that was like we heard months ago at Music Messe, the question is when, when, when are they going to be available so that current owners can evaluate them and comment re the general efficiency and opperation of the improved Audya engines. I know I, like many others who were tempted to buy are now holding off until the proper owner testing is confirmed as A1 before we make the buy decision, so the balls in thier court, back to you Ketron