Scott,
I forgot something that goes along with Diki's comments. Back in '95 when I was still very active in brickwork, I couldn't get up a ladder with my left knee.

I was explaining to my son in a restaurant the next morning that my doctor told me we'd have to do surgery on that knee in a couple of years.

An old farmer boy in bibbed overalls leans back in is chair from the next table with a straw in his mouth and says, Boo go get some Glucosamine chondroitin and MSM, take it for 8 weeks and let me know how you are doing.

To the day 8 weeks later the pain went away and I've been climbing the ladder ever since and no knee surgery.

Scott, do not do like some friend of mind and tell me it doesn't work. When I asked them about it, they said that they took one pill every day. People don't listen. I told them that I take 3 pills every morning and 2 every night. It absolutely works and is much cheaper and less painful then knee surgery.

It doesn't work if you don't take 5 pills a day. If you try Diki's recommendation for a while and it doesn't work give the Glucosamine a try. You've got nothing to lose but a few bucks.

Ask my wife I've been taking this stuff religiously now for 15 years and I'm just a little bit crazier then when I started with the treatment.