I totally agree with you there Ian. I am tired of the same old discussion over and over again that hijacks completely unrelated threads. Though to be fair it wasn't Diki that kicked off this tiresome tangent about keybed size he simply responded to a comment about it. Look back at the thread and you will see that. Enough said .... and I mean enough ... don't anyone bother replying to this issue cos I will simply delete it.

Though as far as the onboard speakers go, there really is a limit to how big and heavy they need to be. They aren't really intended for performance but are more for personal monitoring. If they do work for people for performing then that is great but most people will be running them into some sort of external PA system for live performances and don't want to have unecessary weight added to the keyboard.