Dikki I love debating with you but you are completely nuts ļ

1. If I bought a gun it would be for my protection, not necessarily to kill someone, if I wanted to do that I would simply join the army. (Of course I am being flippant , I have great respect for anyone that has the courage to defend their country)

2. A gun is a lethal weapon but it does not have to be used to kill, it can be used as a show of force. You have no idea what the intentions are or what the state of mind of a burglar (or burglars as they rarely work alone) is when they accidentally disturb a resident.

3. If by your logic, a burglar might already assume I have a gun or that if they disturbed me I might put up some resistance why the hell can¡¦t I actually have one as that surely would just level the playing field. That¡¦s the reasoning behind the saying ¡§never bring a knife to a gunfight¡¨. To level the playing filed. Burglars don¡¦t like level playing fields or they would simply knock on your door and tell you they want your things!! No burglar has anything to fear from me just because I may have a gun. I am not actively seeking out burglars to shoot them! However the burglar IS actively seeking houses to rob which puts me directly at risk as I own a house!! The burglar chooses which house to rob (I don¡¦t choose for a burglar to come to my house ), he chooses whether to be armed or not (I cant ask specifically for the unarmed , wont hurt me kind ) and he has his choice of weapon (I cant ask to be robbed by only the tazer or knife wielding, or the guy that comes unarmed type burglar), and he has the choice as to how or whether he will use the weapon (I cant ask for the drug free just threatening type burglar). It¡¦s only fair that the householder also has a little choice too surely?????

4. In America in certain states and other countries right now, the death penalty already exists. Why is there NO gun or violent crime in those jurisdictions by your logic? The greatest proportion of violent crime is linked to substance abuse whether that is under the influence or the desire to fund the substance abuse. And it is committed by habitually violent people who have a propensity to violence. Let me suggest that criminals generally have little regard for any legal sanctions generally and are not thinking about being caught when they commit their crimes.


This will be my favourite quote from you of all time.

¡§Spalding, a robber doest WANT to kill you, he just wants your stuff, But in America he HAS to use a gun ¡K.¡¨

So why do robbers use guns in the UK Dikki ? I mean by your logic they brought a gun to not even a knife fight right? 6 Months ago my friend was robbed in the church car park in Handsworth Birmingham at gun point by a hooded youth and his accomplice. His car was stolen with his lap top and his keyboards and his house keys, wallet, phone and passes to the studios he works with. Did this youth HAVE to use a gun????? Did he get the gun purely to kill ¡K..?Or did he figure that a gun might come in useful as a show of force to prevent resistance? I reckon some thieves have got onto this genius idea that a gun might actually prevent resistance and potentially violence in most cases.

I think that they are right and I would use the same logic in my home if I owned a gun. If I am wrong then at least I would also have the means to try and protect myself and my family.

You see Dikki a robber may or may not want to kill me (like I said you don¡¦t know their state of mind when they accidentally disturb you ) but I assume he may be prepared to kill me to take my stuff (which is a genuine fear) just as I may be prepared to kill him to protect myself.

A robber does not HAVE to choose to be a robber. He could choose to be a law abiding citizen just like the rest of folk. He has more choice than the choice to rob, steal and potentially kill or be killed.

All I am debating (in a friendly way) is the right for house holders to have some choices too.

Oh and Chas. The correct quote is you should not murder. The translation for the word ¡§kill¡¨ is actually the word meant for unlawful killing. The Bible does permit lawful killing in certain circumstances like self defence or war.