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Originally posted by Diki:

Sorry, Lucky, but that's about the most sexist thing on this thread.

I know several killer female players and singers that are ALL about the music, and probably less about the money and attention than you are...

...where would we be without women like Bonnie Raitt, or Diana Krall, or Aretha Franklin, or Patty Smith, or Bjørk or..... the list goes on and on.

And for an even more extensive list, try this one [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_composers_by_birth_year]http://en.wikipedia.org



There is no such thing as a “sexist” remark. There are only “remarks” made that are then LABELED by whoever hears it.

That said, I looked at your list of women composers. Diki, your argument doesn’t hold water. I didn’t see one female composer that I recognized or who wrote songs that would be recognized.

Now I’m not implying that women are not capable of making great music…see:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_were_male_composers_more_famous_than_female_composers
http://www.abrsm.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10042

…but I am re-stating what I said before:

“...and the more I think about it, the more I note that most great music was written by men (Broadway: Rogers & Hammerstein, George Gershwin Opera: Guiseppe Verdi, Puccini etc. And even the great bandleaders of the 40's were men.”

Be honest, have you ever heard compositions by women that even approximate what Beethoven or Cole Porter wrote. And wrote profusely.

Now if you happen to “know several killer female players and singers that are ALL about the music” that just tells me you KNOW some “killer female players and singers.” It doesn’t tell me there are enough of them to go around in the general music field to win the argument.

“Bonnie Raitt, or Diana Krall, or Aretha Franklin, or Patty Smith, or Bjørk” These are contemporary artists who only came to the forefront relatively recently. I’m talking about since time began (or rather “music” began), men seem to have dominated the field of composing, NOT entertaining (and I won't downplay the contributions of vocalists like Judy Garland, Ella Fitzgerald, Sara Vaughan, Dinah Washington, Doris Day, Kathryn Grayson, the Andrews Sisters and the rest of the great 40’s/big band singers.

And yes, I do realize that for me it could very well be geographical. I live in an area that praises, covets, and respects only money and what it can buy. Around here, music and musicians take a depressing back seat to what's considered to be the “root of all evil.”

Lucky


[This message has been edited by Lucky2Bhere (edited 01-06-2010).]